Mnetters i trust you to do the right thing. vote here.

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am sat next to my 15 yo dd,

just for a laugh, but quite serious in that i know all yo SENSIBLE MUMMIES will chose the right thing

the story:

DD wants to go to a Manga conference in LONDON in October. she is 15. She will be going with DS's GF who is 18 and her friends also 18

stopping overnight.

dd things i am a " an untrusting mother, who needs to know that her daughter is maturer than her age"

i said "no fucking way"

you choose.

• i have final say anyway

c'mon she's sat right here

Doubt the kids will be able to get a room tbh - many horels won't do same sex bookings for people over 18.

Sorry mini Custy, but a no here too.

17 yrs old would have been a yes. 15 is still far too young.

Sorry no She is 15. When she is 16 then some negotiations might be made.

If something happens to a 15 yr old when she's away from home and hanging 'round with a bunch of 18 yr olds, will you be able to go on Jay Leno and hold your head up. That is tongue in cheek, but still.

She has next summer ahead of her to plan and enjoy, and the summer after and the summer after.

If a 15 yr old is hanging around with a bunch of 18 yr old girls and they attract a group of 21 yr old boys, it will be assumed all the girls are the same age. Your dd may not be an innocent virgin but still, things can get out of hand on a holiday, where everybody throws caution to the wind anyway.
Whatever she does should be well-thought out and not fuelled by sangria and holiday fever.

No here too. I have an elder sister so know how she feels but her time will come soon enough!

Oh that is the Lolita dolly dressing or something?! Big thread on this on another board recently.

I thought you meant La Manga, that somebody's parents had a house out there. I'm so old!! But now I've worked out what's going on, I still say no.

she is 15 ... hahahahahahahaahaahahaahahaaa ... in 3 years you can do it mate, but not at 15 ... as your charming mater says "no fucking way"

Nope, not to London.
Not 60 miles away, and not with people you don't know very well.

no.

It's the overnight thing that clinches it for me.

Well unless she spends the night at mine Custy it's a NO!

How many 'noes' do you wish to hear?? Oh room for another one?

No.

it's a no

Oooooohhhhh I would let her but go too and use it as a shopping trip making sure I met up with the for dinner in the evening to make sure they weren;t off their faces!

i am not that keen on london or shoppng! good idea though.

thanks everyone didn't realise it was still going.

a comprimise has been made

as some suggested......ONE day only

and between now and then she has to earn my unwavering trust.

happy days then...everyones a winner!

For me it would be a yes - I was allowed to travel to London on the train at this age, (100 miles). If I hadn't been allowed to go and explore I think it may have stunted me - in fact my parents had to push me at times to go of and do things.

It boosted my confidence and I respected them for giving me the freedom. Being further away made me more sensible and it was only when i was in my home town i would think to get up to mischief. To some extent your 15 year old will have fears of their own and want to be safe, a little trust goes a long way.

totally agree with you custy, more chance of finding rocking horse sh** than being allowed to go.

I would say day fine over night no but then my DD is only 3. but remember being 15 and not being allowed out over night esp in london even with older ppl!

Agree with ivykaty. Think ahead... in 3 years time she'll be an adult and able to do what the hell she likes. An overnight stay in London with 18 year olds is probably a good stepping stone.
I went youth hostelling in France for 2 weeks at age 16 with my 18 year old brother and his friends. TBH I was amazed that my parents let me go, but it was the best thing they ever did in terms of enabling me to be independent. And these days with mobiles you can virtually be in nonstop contact. I remember my brother having to remind me half way into the first week that we really ought to send a postcard home to say we were ok!! So I'd say, give clear guidelines and then say Yes.

Well done on the compromise. As most other posters have said, it's the thought of the other youngsters that's worrying. At the very best, she would seriously cramp their style, but unlikely they'd let that happen .

I stayed alone and safe in a hotel in York over a week-end when I was 16- but the key word is alone. I'm sure my parents would have taken a dim view of my staying with a bunch of only-just-drinking rather-older-than-me people.

I moved to London to go to a day school (leaving parents many miles away) when I was only just 16, and lived with landladies during term fdor 2 years. You are talking about one night and she will be with older people. Let her go. She will come back excited at having had a grown up adventure, proud of herself for having survived it, and grateful to you for having allowed it. She will feel, and act, a little older. So what if she has a hangover?

PS - Cory, "only-just-drinking" 18 year olds?? Not where I grew up... (admittedly in the sticks)

Hey, custy - bring her up to Manc in July:

Manga Summer Days: The Ultimate Holiday Club for Super-Cool Kids

(age 7 and up - should be fairly tame )

I would say yes

It was when she stomped off to bed saying "You suck" that did it for me

erm..........no, 'cos you just acted your age

Nice of you to ask for her though Custardo.

I really wouldn't have a problem with her going. I think at 15 most children are more sensible than we give them credit for.
Londonn can be quite safe you know!
I did many things at 15 that in retrospect may have been quite dangerous but it was fine.