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I’ve been on strike for a week and nothing is changing!

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UnluckyStrike · 09/08/2024 13:44

Just me and 15yo DS at home.

He is a very lazy teen at home. I believe he struggles with time organisation and prioritising etc. Doesn’t do jobs as they arise, instead let’s them mount up and then he’s overwhelmed by it.

However, he is a very hard worker at his shop job and school. So he CAN put effort in when he needs to.

Since he was about twelve, he has been responsible for his own laundry, ironing shirts for school etc and keeping his room tidy (changing bed sheets, hoovering and polishing it once a week). This was the deal for him to receive £5 per week pocket money. On weeks where he didn’t do it, he didn’t get the pocket money. I thought this would ensure he’d grow up understanding responsibility - how wrong was I?!

Since he’s got his own job and earning more money, he isn’t doing anything around the house now.

I am sickened by how messy he is. Dishes in his rooms for weeks resulting in fruit flies, laundry not been done for 4 weeks since the start of the summer holidays except work uniform (he actually went and bought a packet of pants from Tesco the other day rather than wash his current ones!), bed sheets not been washed since the start of the summer. His room is a midden and he doesn’t seem to care. I can smell it - mouldy food etc - as I walk by it.

I have absolutely broken down in the past few weeks. I’ve told him how it’s affecting my mental health as i like to keep a tidy house and i feel as though my house is now infested with bugs etc and smells horrid. I’m too embarrassed to have friends round for dinner. He is very dismissive and just says it’s his room and he’ll get to it at some point.

Things have now escalated as he’s started leaving dishes in the kitchen sink (we don’t have a dishwasher) for me to wash, crumbs in the floor and counter etc. And he goes through soooo many glasses a day. i’ve told him no chance. he either washes it immediately after use or takes it to his room.

I’ve now run out of cutlery and glasses so have told him he needs to wash them today or he’s banned from using any crockery or cutlery etc and will need to use paper items. he said no problem and is planning to go buy disposable plates and cutlery for himself today.

I am actually losing the plot. I don’t know what to do. I feel like every second i’m on edge thinking i can see flies or the smell is seeping into my curtains etc.

Today i have told him he’s banned from loitering in any other room of the house until his bedroom is sorted. I’ve not made him any meals or been shopping in over a week either. He doesn’t know how to cook (he’s never taken me up on the offer to learn) so is now getting annoyed as there are no more tins left or bread etc as he’s been living off beans and soup and toast for the past week as well as brining food home from the cafe he works at. I’ve told him i’d be more than happy to cook a proper meal as soon as his room is tidy.

My strike action isn’t working. I need to go do a big shop and i do need to make some proper dinners but he’s just going to help himself to this and add to the crap already in his room. What can i do???

Today i threatened to take a photo and video of his room and put it on facebook. he said i wouldn’t dare and to be honest i don’t think i do have the guts as it’s so embarrassing.

How can i get him to tidy his room when i’ve already stopped doing everything for him with no effect?

He isn’t at all bothered by it. I can’t cut off anything else for him. His grandparents pay his unlimited phone data, turning of wi-fi won’t work. We have no nearby family to talk to him other than his gran who is a total sexist and softie and will tell me off for not helping him tidy his room.

I DID help him tidy his room a few months ago the last time it go this bad - this consisted of him lying on his bed playing games while dictating to me where things go! Never again! I think he is so stubborn that he’s be willing to hold out until i get that desperate again and just do it for him. Absolutely NOT.

OP posts:
Sirzy · 09/08/2024 13:49

I would get him a basic phone with no internet etc and confiscate his until he starts to take responsibility. Remove any other devices/games consoles etc too.

can you come up with a jobs list together to allocate responsibility for things like dishes and hoovering? (House in general not his room obviously)

Belatedeyebrows · 09/08/2024 13:53

This sounds awful ok, hope you're OK.
I would get him to pay some house keeping (minimal as he's still young) but it will help him understand the value of the money he is earning.
Or hire a cleaner but he pays.
I would also take the phone and replace with basic one. No consoles etc until tidy.

shams05 · 09/08/2024 14:19

I think you have to start with one thing, so take the laundry hamper into his room, stand over him whilst you insist he fills it then gets him to bring it down. Today will just be laundry day, as soon as one wash is done shout him down to put another on. Maybe get him to help you put them on the line.
Tomorrow will be dishes from his room, same thing again. Get him to wash, you dry one sinkful at a time.
I don't think he'll ever do it all on his own and you'll definitely need to push him along and help.

Onelifeonly · 09/08/2024 14:20

The thing he is doesn't care about the mess and has work arounds that suit him. So currently you are only punishing yourself. You've dug too deep.

You need to start with baby steps - things you can impose and he can easily do. Taking the phone is tempting but might be a step too far considering how wedded teens (most of us) are to their phones - it could lead to him being even less co operative.

The truth too is rewards work better than sanctions. Carrot, not stick.

Personally I'd reset the house to my own standards - leave his room for now, just remove anything which is overly disgusting or things you need. (I have had / have untidy teens and I leave their rooms in a mess, unless they ask for help, but I remove rotting food and crockery / cutlery I need etc).

Thing of a few basic and easy things he can do and write them down. Tell him they're non negotiable. Listen calmly to any responses or reasons he gives, then reiterate that these things must be done. Say you'll help him if he needs help to get started. Then discuss sanctions or rewards - anything you do for him that he likes could be a reward (lifts? Extra money? Favourite foods?)

Always stay calm, don't let him know you are upset or that will undermine your position. Take one task and say you'd like it done by x time - or text, I find that can be more effective. Remind him again if it isn't done. Basically repeat as needed and always stay calm (outwardly, at least).

Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day and it won't all be solved at once.

shams05 · 09/08/2024 14:20

And turn off the internet/ WiFi although if he has lots of mobile data this may not be as effective.

1apenny2apenny · 09/08/2024 14:23

He needs to show some respect, he's living in your house. Tell him that unless he cleans his room and does his dishes in the next 24hrs you will bag his stuff up and put it outside.

And I would do exactly that. Get some strong black bags, sweep everything up into them and dump it outside, including stripping his bed.

Andwhatfreshhellisthis · 09/08/2024 14:27

Change password on internet. He pays you starting today £10 an hour (bargain) to put his laundry on and do it and likewise with washing up etc and bill him in advance eg I’m doing 4 hours transfer me £40 now. Make it clear the price will double next week - change the locks. You don’t let him on without payment - all of these are great ideas but li really do feel getting a third party involved would be a good idea. Doesn’t need a be an particular gender but someone to open his door and just say no

Andwhatfreshhellisthis · 09/08/2024 14:28

shams05 · 09/08/2024 14:20

And turn off the internet/ WiFi although if he has lots of mobile data this may not be as effective.

If paying for the phone take it

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 09/08/2024 14:28

He has unlimited mobile data - why does he need the Internet password?

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 09/08/2024 14:31

Put a lock on the kitchen door. Don’t let him have a key.

shams05 · 09/08/2024 14:32

Aah yes I missed the unlimited data bit.
I doubt you'll be able to take his phone off him, at 15 he's probably as big or bigger than you.

Butterflyfern · 09/08/2024 14:34

My uncle was like this. My gran threatened that if he didn't tidy his room, she'd throw all his stuff into the garden while he was out. He didn't, so she did. 😂

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 09/08/2024 14:36

Firstly I'd be checking if the shop job is above board. https://www.gov.uk/find-licences/child-work-permit-england-wales
If his attitude has changed then I'd be concerned about him being exploited.

It's commendable he wants to work but it must be within the legal firework that is there to protect children from exploitation.

bergamotorange · 09/08/2024 14:37

You linked the chores to money, and he doesn't need the money.

Chores are things we do as part of a family, not for money.

I don't know how you turn this round - others will hopefully help - but this is why paying kids to do jobs is a bad idea. Good luck, it sounds hard work Brew

Doingmybest12 · 09/08/2024 14:42

I was going to say give him a warning and timescale and if it's not clean enough you will go in and strip his room and leave him with the basics, ie he'll have no privacy and you'll decide what is kept or goes. I think it can get to an overwhelming point but if you've tried all the talking and helping etc I think you can step in and take control sadly. (As long as its not just messy and below par).

Intheband · 09/08/2024 14:42

Chores should be because your in team “strike” everyone who lives in the house has responsibility to keep it habitable.

surely at 15 if he’s earning that much he can start paying towards housekeeping ( stick it in a savings account for them)

i think if you suggest an ultimatum even if it’s embarrassing you need to go through with it!

Doingmybest12 · 09/08/2024 14:43

I wouldn't stop cooking for him and I would do his laundry if it was in the laundry basket.

bergamotorange · 09/08/2024 14:45

Having re-read your OP, I wonder if a total reset is needed. Can you perhaps adjust so you approach this more as a family - so you all contribute to doing things for all of you. Making him do all his own care seems unusual, and might be why he's decided to say 'fuck you'.

What is the family cooking set up? Kids learn by helping, usually.

Starlightstarbright3 · 09/08/2024 14:46

Honestly you are playing battle of wills .. I have done this with my Ds .. I Thought I was stubborn till I had Ds .

You can start with can you bring down all the rubbish waste so your room isn’t filled with flies .. Take a tray up with you for him to fill ..

fill your laundry basket up and bring it downstairs . I will put washer on ..

can you wash the pots whilst I make your tea ..

you are giving something as well ..

or may not work but a 10 minute tidy up .. we will do 10 minutes a day then I will get off your case for the day ..

yes he is more than capable but what your doing isn’t working .

rosyvalentine · 09/08/2024 14:49

Book a deep clean for his room and make him pay for it. Sympathies OP. I've been there too and it absolutely wrecks your head.

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 09/08/2024 14:52

Your current situation isn't working and you like a clean house so I would re set your current situation. Could you not clean his room and wash and iron his clothes again? That way you have control over your home and standards again. He is only 15 and exam time is looming and I did all those things for my 15 year old as he would have happily lived in squalor as well. My firm rule was and is no meals upstairs and all of my children follow this one. No exemptions. So I never have to get plates/ bowls etc. Cups and glasses however, that's another matter.

NorthDowns · 09/08/2024 14:58

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 09/08/2024 14:52

Your current situation isn't working and you like a clean house so I would re set your current situation. Could you not clean his room and wash and iron his clothes again? That way you have control over your home and standards again. He is only 15 and exam time is looming and I did all those things for my 15 year old as he would have happily lived in squalor as well. My firm rule was and is no meals upstairs and all of my children follow this one. No exemptions. So I never have to get plates/ bowls etc. Cups and glasses however, that's another matter.

Absolutely this!

I never understand people like the OP.
Completely mad, poor boy

CoffeeBeansGalore · 09/08/2024 15:06

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AlpacaAPicnic · 09/08/2024 15:07

What an overreaction! Sorry but it is.

Typical lazy teen but you say he works outside the house and doing fine at school - these are plus points

Just tidy his room as you go along. I can't believe you let it get to a stage where there's bugs in there.

And by tidy, I mean you put what you feel is messy into a bin bag so he risks losing items he may want. Go in there - stand over him. Chivvy him along.

You have to pick your battles at this age. I wouldn't be choosing to be going on strike / banning him from rooms in his home / letting the place become infested / having a breakdown over typical teen nonsense

AlpacaAPicnic · 09/08/2024 15:08

And all you'll get is people piling on with ever more outlandish and ridiculous 'punishments'

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