Man messaging my young teen

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My 14 year old has changed her Insta account from private to public (without my permission) and been contacted by a man in India. Their conversation moved over to Whatsapp, which is the point where I discovered what was happening. His country code is +91 which is India.
I blocked him but now he has contacted her on another number, also +91.
I have taken steps to address this internet behaviour and choices with my teen.
My question is, other than block this man, is there anything else I can do with the numbers he is using? I expect my daughter is not the only young girl he is trying to talk to. Thank you.

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The OP has not mentioned his race, just where his number is from.

OP

I think I would contact the police.

I probably would not have said that yesterday but today I watched a piece about Peter Scully. Warning, if you google the facts are horrendous, here I will just say he is evil.

If your DD has not already seen it, Kayleigh's love story is worth a watch.

It is about the grooming of a 15 year old girl called Kayleigh Haywood (RIP).

https://www.leics.police.uk/kayleighslovestory

OMG, the OP did not say he was an Indian man or even a man FROM India. She simply said that her DD was contacted by a man IN India. For all we know - for all the OP knows, for that matter - he could be half Australian aborigine and half Ashkenazy jew. The only thing she mentioned was his location, not his race.

www.ceop.police.uk/Safety-Centre/How-can-CEOP-help-me-YP/. You could report. It may link with other reports

UPDATE:
Thank you all for your helpful replies. I have made a report via the CEOP website (National Crime Agency). It says a Child Protection Officer will contact me (though I doubt there's much can be done at this point). However, logging it is the right next step.
Daughter has had another talking to and watched the Kayleigh Love Story linked above (thank you so much to the poster who recommended). She thinks I am over reacting but I hope the message has got through now.
Daughters mobile phone number change is pending new SIM.
The Family Link app I use on my phone to control her phone does not allow her to install any new app on her phone without my permission. So she can use her smartphone going forward without Insta or any other social media on it.
Thank you again to everyone who has listened.

I think the op explained he was in India so that we knew that he wasn't in the UK and couldn't try and see the dc in person.

MNHQ revised the title !!!

Note at foot of the OP's post a messaged from, MNHQ

You’re doing brilliantly OP. I’d also recommend speaking to your daughter about the possibility of blackmail, and explain that if he manages to track her down and attempts this, it’s important for her to come straight to you rather than meeting his demands.

I think you are handling this really well OP, 14 is a tricky age and I for one am grateful I didn’t grow up in the era of social media. Good for you for reporting him, at the very least someone will hopefully have an eye out for him going forward. I dislike perverts regardless of what country they are residing in.

You're handling it really well. Watch her browser or limit it, browser and private browsing was where the main amount of chatting was happening before moving into things I cannot ever believe actually happened. Just my experience

MNHQ revised the title !!!

Ah, that makes sense. 😃

Thank you for the update OP

I saw Kayleigh's love story when I was teaching, it is being shown in a lot of schools with support from the police.

It's difficult to know what and when to involve the police, as I said I had been watching something about Peter Scully. He is Australian but living in the Philippians and his case involved police there and in the Netherlands because he used a dutch accent on film.

It's tiny bits of information that the police piece together and often it is not one person alone.

I'm glad your DD is safe and better her think you overreacted than her stay in contact.

Thank you for sharing this OP. My 13 year old DD has been nagging me for Insta because her friends have it etc etc. I've been standing firm, but it really helps having real stories to share to justify my "over protectiveness". My cousin's 14 year old son, for example, was groomed by an older man on insta.

I would report via 101 online with screenshots etc. We can't know that the police wouldnt be interested. They base their work on intel. This could contain a missing piece of the jigsaw. As the railway slogan goes 'see it, say it and stop it.'
It will literally take you not much longer than responding to this thread although the reporting is based on a physical event so you have to explain in the free text.

At worst it may disperse his behaviour but that delays or may stop another child getting sucked in

P.s it is also easy if calling via on line services to be rerouted through a server that is abroad.

My cousin looks as if he is ringing from Australia - he lives in Birmingham

This may sound harsh but I would remove all social media from her devices and block their reinstallation. No 14 year old should have a public social media profile. She is still a child and should be protected.

OP- ignore my post above as you are handling this brilliantly. I missed your latest post.

I would be tempted to write him a letter to his address in India very sternly telling him to never contact your child again and he will be reported to local police and you will follow through with local lawyers if he does. Don't mention your daughters name insta handle or address as he's probably done this to quite a few girls so the letter will protect them all. Hopefully his wife or mother will see the letter too!

How on earth do you know that his real address or even country??

Dont take my word for it but read a post made at 9-35am today about calling from country ? and it shows up as ??

Something I agree with but many will disagree.

Best way to sort this our as per advice on the whole in this thread, EG, via police, leave it to the professionals.

Good luck OP

She gave her address out to a random stranger? Jesus OP, I know you have your hands full and I really do sympathise, but she needs to be told in no uncertain terms that this is extremely dangerous for everyone in your household. It is completely unacceptable and unforgiveable, SEN or not.

I agree with this. 14 is too old to flippantly give out your phone number and home address to a random man. Clearly not ready for a smart phone or SM.

We did this. Absolutely everything- we thought.
She'd worked out how to hack the phone. Once we realised it was continuing we removed the phone totally and all tablets etc. then someone sent her a phone and that's why her disclosing her address is a huge deal.

I totally agree to remove all smart devices, it's the only way. Ours became too embedded and too big that removing a phone gave the groomers validation that we were awful, controlling, stopping them for talking to this person or people she loves. If we'd knew at 14 what we do now no smart phone would've been given at all

Your information is incorrect. The man repeatedly contact a child is grooming. The Police will take action. If it were in the uk the male could be issued with an abduction notice which prohibits him making further contact with the child. If he then continues to make contact he can be arrested. His computer, phone etc would then be seized and examined to determine the extent of his contact with said child. This is a routine enquiry for a child sex exploitation team.

Why are you allowing your 14 year old to have Whatsapp in the first place?