What are these drugs?

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I think they are called Pingers.

I hope they call back and give you some advice.
Hugs op. Be kind to yourself.

Thank you, I feel like I am loving a nightmare. It breaks my heart to think I may lose him but I can't live with this. I rang Frank and all advisors busy, local drug charity and they have pushed me to another charity. There is no help! At 15 his behaviour started and I had no help because he would consent.

I agree there is no help. It's devastating.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It sounds incredibly hard. I once contacted the nspcc (not about drugs, but a serious situation) and found them incredibly helpful. I apologise if you have already tried them and this is not useful. I cannot imagine how worrying this must be.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/reporting-abuse/nspcc-helpline/

Thank you, I will try anything. But it feels like there isn't anything out there until too late. Maybe if he gets caught and a warning they may make him do a drug course!

Given that he's openly stated his intent to supply, I think it needs the police. They may be a gateway to other forms of rehabilitation support.

Has he come out of his room yet and shown his face ?

the thing is because he’s 19, they think they know it all and parents know nothing about the streets and what goes on. He thinks you can’t do anything to him because he’s an adult now
He will come over as a know it all , but hes way way down in the picking order to who’s supplying it

i wound not fall for the old lady growing it 🤣
they become big liars and will protect their source dealer because of the come back on him
The thing is, if he’s not working (so no money) this is easy money to him.
Theres probably more people on it than not on it
which it’s bad!

I think you have several choices here.

If you go to the police now he they will likely take his phone, raid your house and he might be charged with possession or dealing depending on what they find. If it’s his first offence and he plays ball with the police he might get away with it (but unlikely).

You don’t go to the police and he agrees to destroy any drugs he has and cut contact with who ever he’s dealing for and too. Not likely to happen and if he doesn’t stop it’s likely to get a lot worse and he risks a prison sentence.

He’s 19 and an adult. He’s bringing drugs into your home, possibly dealing from your house and putting his family at risk. I would be telling him that this ends now or he will be kicked out.

He is staying with mum. I just hope he doesn't cause her shit. I feel sick and devastated.

Maybe the space will help.

He's gone out tonight, demanding his Balaclava. I have lost control and don't know what to do anymore. He is playing it all down. But I am worried.

He has been harassing me for it. Threatening that I leave it outside the house. What the fuck has he for himself in to. He says it's to keep warm.

It’s the craze with kids, all in black with balaclavas! So they can’t be identified you see it all the time. They look so intimidating

hope you can get this sorted

So sorry you are caught up in this. Your son sounds like he is being exploited and is a victim. He deserves protection, as do you.

Please look up pace - parents against child exploitation. I appreciate your son is 19 but they will have the experience to signpost you if they can't help.

People here who advise 'hitting the roof' or not being 'dictated to in your own home' don't know how trapped and difficult this is for your son.

They also don't know about the extent of this problem in the uk. Please seek other parents for advice and guidance, there is help out there beyond trying to tackle it at home because you can't and need support.

Good luck

You're right to be worried (as per your next post). Also, I don't think him living with your Mum is the answer - it's just making him someone else's problem. If I'm bring blunt, that's just selfish a move to make life easier for you.

I'd move your younger son (temporarily) to grandparents, definitely. While you deal with this high stress situation.

Interesting that he's asked you for a balaclava. Asked you. And you gave it. I deal with these sorts of teens in my working life (and am also a Mum of similar ages). If asked, I would categorically not have given. That's like OKing the behaviour. Different if he'd just gone out with a balaclava- ehats key here is that he asked you for it, and you found it and handed it over.

I hold with the idea that you need police and the justice services supporting you to redirect his negative behaviour.

I really feel for u in this situation.sometimes u have to he cruel to be kind.
From what u have described it sounds like he may have been groomed into county lines or jus selling to others. I have myself been around friends who ended up gettin groomed' back then wasnt seen that way but they ended up in debt and had to go out selling or even hold stuff in their houses. Like bullying but with violence n drugs involved horrible ! I hope u get some support for your family n son !

I didn't give him the Balaclava. Mum took him in when I was as work.belive me I don't want to put them through anything I've been out through so thanks for making me feel even worse. My mum didn't know half of it until I told her when she took him and she wants to help him and give me a break. I cried so much because she has done that for me even though I don't want her to.I just pray he responds better to her.

According to my app nearest drug supplies is 0.23miles away, 23 hour delivery

what hour are they closed out of interest

teens have done drugs since time immemorial, I wouldn’t worry too much

Have you heard anything OP? It sounds like he's going to end up in trouble tonight no matter what anyone tries. You must be so worried 💐

Thank you for asking he did go home at 11pm, alot earlier then he would if he stayed here. Hopefully this will continue and my parents can make him feel loved. He doesn't feel that with us, he sees us trying to make things worse for him. I feel he hates us 😔

hey, this is very common for teenagers. It’s luck of the draw with who they mix with and what they get exposed to. Do not blame yourself. The important thing is how you deal with all these things.

Don’t give up. This is like the hardest age. Just never give up. He’ll come back.

I really hope so 😔