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Is it still 'normal' for 13 y/o girls to be sexually active?

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cheshirebloke · 31/10/2022 13:08

My kids live with me full time, and eldest, dd is 13. She talks to me fairly openly about personal stuff, like when she started her periods a few months ago - she doesn't seem shy or embarrassed to talk to me. She's a fairly quiet girl, slightly tomboyish, wears baggy clothes rather thank skimpy stuff, very studious, doesn't go out that much, doesn't often wear make up, and isn't too preoccupied with her appearance in general. Sometimes I have to remind her to brush her hair or put clean clothes on lol.

I don't think she's particularly streetwise, and in some ways is possibly a bit immature for her age (yet in others does seem mature). So far she's not openly shown any real interest in boys, other than platonically, and up until recently has been telling me that she thinks she's asexual. I'm not aware of her having any actual boyfriends, and her attitude still seems to that boys/sex = gross. I'm waiting with baited breath for the hormones to start going crazy and all that to change dramatically.

I'm not completely naïve, I remember from my own youth what young teenage girls were like at that age (in the 90's), but I've always thought that at 13, only a small minority were actually sexually active? Sure, a few years later, by 16, probably the majority of girls were, but in my mind there's a big jump from 13 to 15. But so far, given my daughter's attitude and behaviour, I've no reason to think she's a sexually active 13 yo. And she'd have to be selling me a magnificent cover story to hide what she's really getting up to.

But it came up in conversation with my dp the other day (who knows my dd reasonably well, but we don't live together, and no way would any of us consider her as a step parent). DP was insistent that it's 'very common' for most 13 y/o girls to be sexually active, and there's every chance dd is getting with boys already, and that she's just putting on a sweet and innocent act for me as a cover up. DP basically did a character assassination on dd and told me she's a perpetual liar and I shouldn't believe anything she says (I know she lies and withholds some things from me, but nothing serious). I think that's a bit of a leap tbh, or maybe I am just totally sucked in by my dd's very good act?

I know that DP was sexually active from 13 and from that age had a several much older boyfriends (20's) up to when she got pregnant at 15 by a 28 year old bloke. So from her perspective, DP thinks that was pretty normal. But I think even in the 90's that wasn't particularly common? And these days I get the impression that it's a lot rarer for teenage girls to have much older boyfriends. It just seems less socially acceptable, or is it because I'm viewing it from a very different perspective now?

I'm going to have to have another chat with dd about it, but I'm struggling to see things from dp's view that dd has pulled the wool over my eyes with lies and an elaborate cover up.

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Goneback2school · 31/10/2022 13:18

AndyWarholsPiehole · 31/10/2022 13:13

DP was insistent that it's 'very common' for most 13 y/o girls to be sexually active, and there's every chance dd is getting with boys already, and that she's just putting on a sweet and innocent act for me as a cover up. DP basically did a character assassination on dd and told me she's a perpetual liar and I shouldn't believe anything she says (I know she lies and withholds some things from me, but nothing serious)

Your partner sounds like a creepy fucker that's been having thoughts about her.

The OP's partner is a woman.
I wouldn't have said it was normal, then or now. It sounds like the partner is projecting her own experience on to your Dd and not being very nice about it either.

Thurst · 31/10/2022 13:18

13 definitely wasn’t normal for starting to have sex in my day. Snogging probably and some girls had started doing a bit more but sex wasn’t until 15/16 at least.

Motnight · 31/10/2022 13:18

YerAWizardHarry · 31/10/2022 13:16

Her DP is a female

Doesn't matter. By red flag I meant that the dp is deliberately trying to get the Op to believe certain things about his dd, including the fact that she is a liar.

anyothername22 · 31/10/2022 13:19

@YerAWizardHarry yes, DP is a woman, and I think the OP is a man. Username is @cheshirebloke anyway.

drkpl · 31/10/2022 13:19

It’s not normal, and wasn’t. If you have absolutely no reason to believe your daughter is up to anything then don’t go interrogating her for no reason. Make sure she understands things like consent, healthy relationships, contraception/Sti protection- other than that just let her be 13. What behaviour would indicate she’s trying to cover anything up? She may well start to get sexual feelings, but maybe she wants to act like she’s not into it because it’s not really something she wants to talk about, she’s not obligated to disclose this and it doesn’t mean she’s up to anything.
I’d keep a close eye on your partner. It’s a strange thing to suggest.

BlessedBeTheFruitCake · 31/10/2022 13:21

I didn’t know anyone who was sexually active at 13 when I was at school. The youngest was 14 and even that was the exception, 15 was the age most of my peer group started to have sex.

Derbee · 31/10/2022 13:21

Thanks think your DP is realising that her life was somewhat dysfunctional and troubled. Being a 15 year old impregnated by a 28 year old is illegal child abuse.

Perhaps now that she’s seeing a 13 year old infront of her, she’s realising how young she was and how problematic a lot of the things that happened to her were, and is trying to “normalise” it by implying many 13 year olds are sexually active. Rather than dealing with her issues.

miltonj · 31/10/2022 13:23

13 is unusual. Not unheard of but not the norm. When I was in school all that started at around 15. I work in schools and even in the PRUs it's not till around 14/15 when I start hearing stories about whose doing what with who etc.

Notjusta · 31/10/2022 13:23

Whataretheodds · 31/10/2022 13:18

I think we forget how gradual these things were - a snog, a feel over clothing, under clothing, plenty of scope between just kissing and full intercourse. I remember there being plenty of clear lines in my head when i was 13/14/15.

Also, 'normal' might not be terribly helpful language. Just because some are active to some extent at 13 doesn't mean everyone's at it. Just because the average is older doesn't mean the 13 year olds are abnormal.

I agree your DP's attitude to your daughter doesn't sound nice.

Totally agree with the first part of this post - and I think it's a subtlety that is often lost in these threads. There is a lot in between nothing at all sexual and full sex. I had kissed a boy when I was 13 and possibly done some touching, but I was not ready for sex at all.

So I guess it depends what you mean by 'sexually active'. I don't think it's normal for 13 year olds to be have sex. I do think it's normal for them to fancy people and start exploring a bit with kissing and touching.

Gunpowder · 31/10/2022 13:24

Definitely wasn’t usual in the 90s. I can think of one girl who was sexually active in my wider friendship group at one school at that age and when I changed secondary schools that year no girls were. I think your partner is projecting and I don’t think her attitude to your DD is very nice.

BlueBar · 31/10/2022 13:27

It was never normal. Your DP was a sexually exploited child.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 31/10/2022 13:28

It was not normal then, it is not normal now, and if this is real then your DP's norms have been desperately distorted by her own experiences.

witchesbubblebath · 31/10/2022 13:29

Do you think your partner is projecting an image of her onto your DD? I bet this is what is happening.
Some 13 year olds girls will be sexually active but I think the vast majority won't* *be. Just because it was normal for your partner doesn't mean it will be for your DD, seriously.
People project onto situations all the time.

TheLoupGarou · 31/10/2022 13:29

Your partner sounds horrible. Are you seriously ok with them talking about your daughter like that? It's massively inappropriate and overstepping. I would be rethinking the relationship.

13 is very young and (in case this is a genuine post and not some fucking perv rubbing their knees) no, it's not 'normal' to be sexually active at that age, either now or in the 90's or whatever.

2bazookas · 31/10/2022 13:29

Ignore DP.

Focus on DD . Its her POV that counts.

When she says "I'm asexual" you could respond with.
"everything seems different now. When I was 13 I'd not started thinking about sex or gender. I'd never heard of asexual and didn;t know what it meant. Not sure I do now."

knittingaddict · 31/10/2022 13:30

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SallyWD · 31/10/2022 13:32

What do you mean by sexually active? I had my first snog at 14 and all my friends were doing the same. I wad "getting off" with boys at 15 (no sex). I knew a couple of girls who had sex at 14 but they were in the minority. Most of my friends and I lost our virginity betw 16 and 19.

PeachPies · 31/10/2022 13:32

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Oh yes, be careful everyone

there is a MAN

littleburn · 31/10/2022 13:33

I think the real issue is your DP is trying to upset and disrupt your relationship with your DD. They called her a 'perpetual liar'! They've done a good job of making you question what your daughter has told you. Why are they doing this? What's their end game here?

witchesbubblebath · 31/10/2022 13:33

I remember fellow pupils at my school claiming that they had done things with boys when they were 15 years and I believed them but it could have easily been bullshit to show off now I look back. We were generally very sheltered children given the school and our backgrounds.
15 is very different to age 13 because it can seem as if they grow up in a very, very short amount of time.
I don't know normal 15 is tbh.

titchy · 31/10/2022 13:33

* Motnight*
Agree. Your dp's attitude is a red flag in general.

Her DP is a female

So what? Her partner sounds vile, and has a very fucked up view of what's normal - perhaps as a result of the grooming relationships she herself got into at that age.

knittingaddict · 31/10/2022 13:34

PeachPies · 31/10/2022 13:32

Oh yes, be careful everyone

there is a MAN

That's not what I meant and have no problem with men being on here. It's very naive to not look at subject matter and who the op might be. Crack on if you don't care, but a bit of a head's up doesn't go amiss.

PeachPies · 31/10/2022 13:36

witchesbubblebath · 31/10/2022 13:33

I remember fellow pupils at my school claiming that they had done things with boys when they were 15 years and I believed them but it could have easily been bullshit to show off now I look back. We were generally very sheltered children given the school and our backgrounds.
15 is very different to age 13 because it can seem as if they grow up in a very, very short amount of time.
I don't know normal 15 is tbh.

15 would definitely be normal.

The only kids that were virgins at 15 when I was at school were the ones no one wanted to sleep with Blush

OnABreeze · 31/10/2022 13:37

Yes it was normal when I was that age (00's) and I went to a very good school - one of the best performing in the country that was hard to get into. It was full of children from different socio-demographics. Those who had swimming pools in their gardens and flew by helicopter to those in near poverty. Their background didn't make a difference. A lot of us were sexually active at 13, we tended to date guys who were 14-15 who obviously would be sexually active at that age. It didn't mean we were already having sex but we were definitely doing "stuff".

Chomolungma · 31/10/2022 13:37

Your DD sounds fine and I don't think you have anything to worry about. The question is why are you in a relationship with someone who thinks she's a liar?