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Not sure how to deal with this

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MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 00:01

Yesterday we left DS15 "home alone" for the night for the first time. We were about a three hour drive away. He's usually very sensible/responsible, so I made sure the neighbours were around in case there was an emergency, but wasn't too worried. After we'd left he asked if he could go for a sleepover with a school friend (he never usually goes for sleepovers... He's just not been into them). I was fine with this, and didn't even think to check with the parents. I tried texting him a couple of times just to check in and day goodnight, as I couldn't see him on Google maps. I didn't get a reply until about 9.30 in the morning, and had been slightly worried, but had told myself to stop being neurotic.

Anyway he told us when we got back that he'd actually gone on a 8 hour bus journey (usually 5 hours, but there were delays) to go and visit "his girlfriend" (a 15yr old girl he's been chatting with on discord). He arrived at 11 at night. The girl's parents then drove them both to a sleepover/party at some other kids' house. WTF?!

We're completely blindsided by this... It obviously goes against everything we've ever said about internet safety. I feel sick to think of how badly it might have turned out.

I'm also very pissed off that the parents didn't a) insist that he tell us what he was going, and b) took them to a sleepover (there was vodka, and luckily DS was sensible enough not to drink much). They spent the night together, but didn't have sex (I know this from looking through his phone... Yes I know it's an invasion of privacy, and this is the first time I've checked it for a few years). But anyway, I'm wondering WTF kind of parents he's getting mixed up with.

I'm just reeling from it all. Not sure how to proceed. He's apologised and made all the right noises about understanding how shocked/worried we must be, but he's also smitten and is wanting to meet with her again (for more sleepovers!?).

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titchy · 06/03/2022 15:22

@SavoyCabbage

Seriously? At 15? I would assume I’d failed as a parent if my 15 year old couldn’t get on a train by himself.

Judging by all the parents cluttering up the university offer days you are only one that thinks this.

My dd just went to Loughborough and there were only three other people there without their mammy and one of the dads asked her if she was ok there by herself. Confused And these are actual 18 year olds.

The parents weren't there to make sure their offspring managed the journey - is that really why you think parents go on open days - wow!
MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 16:43

Titchy - he told me because a) he wants to see her again, but doesn't want to be secretive, b) the mum said he should tell us, and c) he felt bad about lying and wanted to get it off his chest.

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Loopytiles · 06/03/2022 16:51
Grin

He needs to get real!

MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 16:56

I've had a conversation with the mum, and can kind of see her reasoning a bit more. She only found out about it when he was well on his way, and she felt she couldn't insist he contact us in case he felt cornered and did a runner. She let them go to the sleepover as she knows the other kids very well, and trusts her daughter to make good decisions, which I guess is fair enough. She perhaps has a more lax approach to underage sex than me. Or it least for me it's not even just the age, but the newness of the "relationship", but again both DS and her daughter seem to have been sensible, and not had sex, so I guess that's the main thing?!

I've discussed "ground rules" with the mum, eg DS is going to have to rebuild trust before going back to their town, but their daughter is welcome to visit, or they can meet half way.

I've had some good chats with DS and feel more understanding about it all. He's got an appetite for adventure, which has been curtailed by the pandemic (eg air cadets and D of E expeditions are still cancelled where we are). I think this was partly a way of him having an exciting expedition that tested his "bravery". I'm actually quite proud of a couple of the details... He didn't join in (much) with the drinking, even though he must have felt some peer pressure with this new crowd. He also had the wherewithal to help out one of the other girls who had got too drunk (make sure she was safe etc).

Anyway, I'm not saying I'm fine with any of it, just that it's not so black-and-white awful as I first thought.

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Loopytiles · 06/03/2022 16:59

Who’s told you all this about no sex, booze and helping others: DS?

BuyDirt · 06/03/2022 17:15

I think you’re being a bit naive OP. He travelled to see someone he’d never met before when you trusted him to be home alone but you think he didn’t drink much alcohol, have sex and spent his time helping girls in need. I hope he’s telling the truth but after what you know he has done, the travelling to meet someone he knows only online, I’d be very suspicious. Yet somehow he’s convinced you to be proud, that’s he’s brave, adventurous and actually a big of a hero. 😬

BuyDirt · 06/03/2022 17:15

bit

MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 19:41

I took his phone and read all the messages. The info I've seen in there backs up his story.

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MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 19:45

"Yet somehow he’s convinced you to be proud, that’s he’s brave, adventurous and actually a big of a hero." If you took the time to read my message properly, you'd see that I'm proud of "a couple of the details", and that I'm not fine with what he did. I think it's important for me to try and understand what he was doing, and to try and see the nuance in the situation.

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Flipflopssndsocks · 06/03/2022 19:47

It is. He could do it anytime without any input from you and realistically there is nothing you can do. Just new building your relationship which is obviously good.

BuyDirt · 06/03/2022 21:33

If you took the time to read my message properly, you'd see that I'm proud of "a couple of the details", and that I'm not fine with what he did. I think it's important for me to try and understand what he was doing, and to try and see the nuance in the situation.

I’ve have read properly and I think you are being naive. He’s been extremely sneaky, I’d view

everything he says and every text you’ve read with suspicion. Your child, your choice but if you post then you’re going to get others opinions.

MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 21:42

I'm wondering what's to gain from that, other than a sour relationship? Whether I believe him or not, the consequences are the same. I'm keeping a close eye on him, and he knows that his bad decision means that I don't feel safe with him travelling to see his GF for the foreseeable future.

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catfunk · 06/03/2022 21:44

He's a teenage boy, of course he's going to make stupid decisions if left to his own devices.

MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 21:47

I mean, we can all make poor judgments. Mine was to trust a 15 year old to stay at home overnight. His was make a potentially very risky trip to meet an internet girlfriend. He felt he had to be secretive about it, and I think the onus is on me (or both of us parents) to try and understand what's going wrong there. Taking a very distrustful approach probably isn't going to keep that process!

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MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 21:51

I'm surprised at how certain posters are that all 15 year olds make bad decisions if left alone though! I would never have done anything like this as a teenager, and neither would DH.

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Flexitarian · 06/03/2022 21:53

Well he won’t be left home alone again for a very long time, will he? He’s broken your trust. That is going to take some rebuilding.

MollyCoddle · 06/03/2022 22:04

Flexitarian, no he won't. I think he realises how much this decision has cost him.

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SavoyCabbage · 06/03/2022 22:13

Offer days. Not open days.

FatherArmando · 06/03/2022 23:17

I travelled all over the north of England from London to visit universities age 17, sans parents. Wouldn't have occurred to me to take them!

Maybe it's different nowadays as parents will be contributing to fees? I don't know.

Anyway, off topic, sorry.

I wouldn't be too harsh on him OP, it'll just encourage him to be more sneaky in future.

I wasn't a particularly rebellious teen but the one time myself and a friend went off (she 14/15) for the day and night without telling anyone (this was pre mobile phones), my mum just talked to me about it exactly why she had been so worried etc. just explain, don't punish.

I've got all this to come in a few years so I might be eating these words in future.

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