Found a spare phone in ds's room, need some advice please!

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

The rule has always been that devices go on the landing so as not to disturb sleep --or go on Snapchat all night- -

Recently 15 year old ds is really struggling with tiredness, big bags under his eyes , moody and snappy etc. I've made a huge effort to ensure he's in bed by 10 otherwise he would be still batting around at half past midnight this is totally in line with most of his friends' bedtimes so he's not hard done by despite what he says

I've just been cleaning his room- he knew I was planning on doing it today but as he was late leaving for school AGAIN I presume he forgot to hide his spare phone complete with ear buds as it was on his bed.

Ffs no wonder he has been so knackered if he's on that until all hours

What would you do if this was your son so I can plan what to do?

I want to go batshit crazy as he's been horrendous to live with as he's been so snappy and tired but obviously won't do that...yet.

Oh yes, holidays he can go to bed when he wants!

just have a chat with him. It's partly because of staying up late on phone but also probably a lot to do with the shift in sleep patterns when you are a teenager. So he genuinely feels wide awake at 10pm.
He will mutter and moan but just stick to the Roolz. He knows you are right but by God, he's never going to admit it!

Is it feasible to change the wifi password at DS's bedtime? PITA, but achievable.

Though lots of apps work without Internet.

To be fair to your DS, I'm a 40 something mum of two, professional, proper grown up and I struggle with the same thing.

Most routers have the facility to turn off the wifi on individual devices at specific times.

Interesting Bit will look into that if this chat didn't work.

Just asked him if he wanted something to eat and he ended up selling me his old phone case, not sure how that happened

He's a good kid, just needs reminding every now and again.

**doesn't

But he'll be at university soon probably and you can't police then.

I'd ring my own phone from it so you can get the number, then leave it where I found it. Then, just before I got into bed tonight I'd send him a text message saying 'I know what you're doing, pop your phone on the landing and we'll say no more about it. Love Mum xxx'

Sounds like normal teenage stuff, you do know it is all downhill from now on, . Parties, alcohol, wanting to stay out until the small hours,

Oh dear, I really should have read the whole thread!. No SIM. Hey ho. I chuckled at my idea anyway!

As you were...

But he'll be at university soon probably and you can't police then he's 3 years of uni and I imagine he'll be better at recognising when he needs an early night

Maureen- it hasn't got a SIM, just apps and games.

I quite liked your idea Maureen

Maybe he's got a girlfriend and is messaging her on Facebook? That could account for the sneakiness?

I think 10pm is a little early for a 15yo personally - at 15 though my son used to come in from school, nap until dinner time then be up till midnight.

10pm isn't early when my eldest dd was 15 she was in bed at 9.30 on a school night.

As are many of his friends AndNow

That and I'd probably be fine with that but he's not napping so is shattered on top of all the sport he does. It's not like he catches up at weekends either as he doesn't really sleep past 7.30am.

Not got a girlfriend as far as far as I know and not on Facebook,none of the teens are now it's Snapchat all the way,dontcha know?

10pm isn't early when my eldest dd was 15 she was in bed at 9.30 on a school night.. I was sent to bed at 9.30 when I was 15. I frequently struggled to sleep and was awakeminto the small hours, then knackered in the morning and my mum thought I needed bed at 9pm!! Had she of sent me a bit later when I was actually tired I may have got to sleep much earlier.

Snapchat... I'm a dinosaur.

I've got a mate who changes the WiFi password every night at 10.30pm.

he's 3 years of uni and I imagine he'll be better at recognising when he needs an early night

'Student' and 'early night' have never gone together, ime!

Meadows my dd slept very well.

Could you turn the t'internet off at night, remove the plug and hide it. Or does Snapchat not need it.

I don't want to be turning things on and off plus the computer gets all confused and has had to be reset on the times the router has been turned off because of power cuts BUT I will investigate further if leaving the phone on the landing doesn't work I like idea of turning off individual devices. Mind you he still shouldn't have his phone over night as if people text it'll disturb him.

I would find out why he is doing it instead of just punishing him he could be doing it to try and stop thinking or he might have insomnia and not want to talk to you about it

He can use Snapchat, What's App, Twitter etc withut a SIM card.