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Taking in a 16 year old girl (DH's cousin) who is moving from the USA and who we have never met before. HELP!

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bluebellsanddaffodils · 26/09/2012 20:37

I can't believe I've typed this title, it sounds utterly insane, but somehow it's starting to seem like the right thing to do.

DH's aunt (along with her husband and two DDs) moved to the USA 13 years ago and ended up staying illegally. The girls have grown up, the eldest is early twenties with two kids but can't go to college or work without a social security number. It's not a good, productive or happy life for her. The younger DD2 (16 years) is part way through high school and doesn't want to end up like her sister, finishing school and having no future.

Her half brother, here in England has offered her a home if she wanted to move home and do her GCSEs and start a new life, while her parents and sister scrape and save enough for passports and airfare back to England for them all to start over. The family saved for her passport which arrived last week, and under the impression that she had a new life lined up and ready to go, we paid her airfare so that she could start school ASAP, as it's already nearly the end of Sept.

It now emerges that the DD2's half brother has been in touch with the family and said that they haven't actually sorted a school place yet, they won't be able to help her financially, they work 60 hrs a week each so won't be able to help her study/spend time with her and she'll have to walk everywhere as they'll be out with the cars. They also are really tight for cash and can't help with allowance - not even toiletries. She's expected to get a weekend job immediately and fund anything that's not rent & food.

She is 16, is leaving her family not knowing when she'll see them again, she hasn't been in the UK since she was 3, she has no friends, and I think it'll be really hard for her to balance a new education system, a new school, being behind with study AND work at weekends. I also think it'll be really hard for her to find a job.

I can't believe the adults taking care of her allowed this situation to develop. Perhaps her half-brother didn't think this would actually happen, and he made empty promises?

Either way, even though her parents and half-bro have been terribly foolish, at the end of this is a scared teenage girl with no friends, no money and a lot of work ahead of her. I have never met her, and neither has my DH but we're seriously considering taking her in until her family can get back to the UK.

ARE WE MAD??

I have two DSs (22 mths and 12 weeks) and my husband works away a lot. We have a healthy household income and a spare bedroom. We have good local schools and good transport links into 3 cities. From the online contact we've had for a few years she seems a good kid, really into her sports, very popular, hard-working.

HOWEVER, I am worried that I don't know how to deal with a teenager, particularly one who isn't mine. I.e. what if she moved here, fell in with a bad crowd and started skipping school/breaking curfew?

Basically, I think what I'm asking is....if you were going to take in a teenager who was far away from her parents (a good kid, polite, will probably find it terribly hard to adjust, but hopefully not too hard to make friends) and help them improve their life and prospects......what rules/conditions would you put in place? And would you also expect them to contribute to chores - and to what extent?

I know this is a strange situation and you will probably have more questions for me.... but I need to start seeking advice from somewhere, and where better than mumsnet?

I don't even know what I'll do about school, if we decide to take her in. Can I call a local school and explain the situation and expect them to take a student 5 weeks into an academic year?

My mind is boggling at the amount of admin this may require....
thanks for listening.

OP posts:
Knowsabitabouteducation · 30/09/2012 08:49

I think NI numbers are triggered by Child Benefit records, so she is unlikely to have one.

It's easy enough to apply for one though. This is someone just to get over and done with quickly.

SecondhandRose · 30/09/2012 21:18

She may well have an NHS number from when she was born and might be worth asking her Mum as she may still have details of this from her baby record book.

bluebellsanddaffodils · 30/09/2012 22:03

So... another update, an a bit unexpected.

Today we went to see the DD, let's call her A - and her brother and his wife (so DB & DSIL for the purposes of this post, hers not mine)

It appears that A's mother has basically lied to everyone.

She lied to us about the living situation that A was going into/had arrived into so that she could get her daughter in with the 'richer relatives', as she thought her daughter deserved the best (where this sense of entitlement from relatives she's never met comes from, I don't know).

So it turns out, A's DB & DSIL do intend to give her an allowance, she has her own room there, they have her NHS card, they've made college appointments, they've applied for her NI card, they've applied for legal guardianship etc. Not only have they done all this, but done it with less than a week's notice and without complaint. They are LOVELY, honest, hardworking people. Yes, they don't have much spare cash and they work very long hours so won't be able to spend lots of time with A and help her study but I am in awe that they've managed to do so much whilst juggling their work and the DB's young son who visits at weekends. The amount of ground they've covered in a week is truly amazing. I feel terrible we misjudged them and made an impulsive offer because a) our vision of them was based on a pack of lies and b) they are deeply deeply hurt and upset by the suggestion that they aren't good enough.

Somehow, we have managed to really offend and hurt strangers, based on the lies of a woman who to me, is also a stranger. I have no idea how this spiralled so fast...

A's mother also lied to us when she said that A's DB & DSIL knew we'd made an offer and wanted to accept because they wanted A to have the best
(We offered only on the basis that her DB & DSIL were on board with the idea...otherwise we're basically kidnappers)

It turns out, they'd only heard of us for the first time when A said "I've spoken to Mom, these people have a better house and will give me more stuff and they're coming to collect me on Sunday"

WTF was she thinking?!?!

So we had a 2 hour chat today and ironed a few things out. Obviously, they have had 25 years-ish experience of this woman, so know that she is a liar and a money-grabber. They therefore don't seem to hold any negative feeling against us. Hopefully we will just be able to support them in other ways (research into A's education/opportunities, occasional gifts to A to help in practical ways... Boots vouchers for make-up and maybe the odd pair of shoes/a coat etc) and also spending weekends with her and doing nice things together.

TBH, although we offered and were prepared to take A on, I am hugely relieved that she will be staying with her brother for the time being. I didn't realise how emotionally driven and impulsive the decision was and the deep relief I felt when we came home without her made me realise just what a huge thing we'd offered. Huge. Almost stupid of us really, but we just couldn't bear the thought of her alone and abandoned.

And it makes me angry that DH's aunt thought that her daughter was entitled to this... and that she's not only happy for someone else to do all the supporting/paying/driving/comforting/parenting..... but also thinks it's time the rich relatives had a go. WHO THINKS LIKE THAT?!?!

In addition, it turns out that her child benefit for her 2 DDs has continued to go into her English bank account for the last 13 years and she's been withdrawing it every month in America. FOR 13 YEARS. Unbelievable.

At the end of it though, A still has no idea whether or not she can go to school this year (I suspect not, due to this rule of being out of the country for 10 years and then having to be resident at least 6 months)... her DSIL is working on finding out. She still has no coat or boots (I am going to give her a voucher I think so she can shop with her DSIL; if I take her out I know I will feel guilty and buy her more than I currently want to, plus I took her 3 bags of stuff today and already kitted out the spare room here!!)
She still has no winter clothes and today was wearing two of her DSILs old jumpers. However some lovely people I know have offered hand-me-downs, so hopefully this won't be a problem for too long.

She is coming to visit Wed-Fri this week so she can have a change of scene - which will be nice, but I also don't want her to go back and say 'I want to live there'. I don't know that she would be that insensitive, but I will have to gently make clear that we believe her home is with her brother and now that we can see that, we're committed to helping her in a different way. It'll be hard with DH away though.... this is his family, i feel like he should be the one to spell it out to her if she starts to daydream again or latch on to her mother's warped sense of entitlement (I fear she may have been brainwashed into thinking her extended family's meagre wealth is something of a birthright to her)

Well done if you've got this far!

OP posts:
NonnoMum · 30/09/2012 22:10

That sounds like a relief...You really do have enough on with your two young DCs... The aunt sounds a bit mad (and maybe even a bit criminal, still claiming CB??) so let's hope you can manage to support the girl without getting too drawn in... Point out the part time jobs in the local pub/restaurant/newsagents etc??

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 30/09/2012 22:19

Bloody hell OP, what is this girl's mother thinking?! Hope you are able to offer support to the DB and DSIL dealing with her, and she is the kind of girl that will appreciate the kindness of relatives and not share this massive sense of entitlement of her mother's.

ZZZenAgain · 30/09/2012 22:26

I think that will be a problem. Unbelievable really how irresponsible the parents are towards their dds. SHould have thought they would have had the sense to let her complete her schooling in the US and check the legal situation out thoroughly. At the very least really.

It does not sound as if she feels very grateful to the family which is taking her in

slambang · 30/09/2012 22:31

Phewww! Sounds like a bit of a lucky escape if you don't mind me saying.

SomeoneThatYouUsedToKnow · 01/10/2012 00:00

It turns out, they'd only heard of us for the first time when A said "I've spoken to Mom, these people have a better house and will give me more stuff and they're coming to collect me on Sunday"

WTF indeed! Shock

Sounds like you had a lucky escape. I really hope it all works out for everyone concerned.

BTW I still think she is eligible for immediate schooling. It seems quite a straightforward case. (see my earlier post)

Romilly70 · 01/10/2012 20:25

Wow, A sounds rather entitled herself; some time away from her mom will do her good to learn some values.

Glad you have don't have the upheaval of looking after her full time, at least you can give A's DB & DSIL some respite and A can have a change of scene and hopefully help out with your DC's

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