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Taking in a 16 year old girl (DH's cousin) who is moving from the USA and who we have never met before. HELP!

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bluebellsanddaffodils · 26/09/2012 20:37

I can't believe I've typed this title, it sounds utterly insane, but somehow it's starting to seem like the right thing to do.

DH's aunt (along with her husband and two DDs) moved to the USA 13 years ago and ended up staying illegally. The girls have grown up, the eldest is early twenties with two kids but can't go to college or work without a social security number. It's not a good, productive or happy life for her. The younger DD2 (16 years) is part way through high school and doesn't want to end up like her sister, finishing school and having no future.

Her half brother, here in England has offered her a home if she wanted to move home and do her GCSEs and start a new life, while her parents and sister scrape and save enough for passports and airfare back to England for them all to start over. The family saved for her passport which arrived last week, and under the impression that she had a new life lined up and ready to go, we paid her airfare so that she could start school ASAP, as it's already nearly the end of Sept.

It now emerges that the DD2's half brother has been in touch with the family and said that they haven't actually sorted a school place yet, they won't be able to help her financially, they work 60 hrs a week each so won't be able to help her study/spend time with her and she'll have to walk everywhere as they'll be out with the cars. They also are really tight for cash and can't help with allowance - not even toiletries. She's expected to get a weekend job immediately and fund anything that's not rent & food.

She is 16, is leaving her family not knowing when she'll see them again, she hasn't been in the UK since she was 3, she has no friends, and I think it'll be really hard for her to balance a new education system, a new school, being behind with study AND work at weekends. I also think it'll be really hard for her to find a job.

I can't believe the adults taking care of her allowed this situation to develop. Perhaps her half-brother didn't think this would actually happen, and he made empty promises?

Either way, even though her parents and half-bro have been terribly foolish, at the end of this is a scared teenage girl with no friends, no money and a lot of work ahead of her. I have never met her, and neither has my DH but we're seriously considering taking her in until her family can get back to the UK.

ARE WE MAD??

I have two DSs (22 mths and 12 weeks) and my husband works away a lot. We have a healthy household income and a spare bedroom. We have good local schools and good transport links into 3 cities. From the online contact we've had for a few years she seems a good kid, really into her sports, very popular, hard-working.

HOWEVER, I am worried that I don't know how to deal with a teenager, particularly one who isn't mine. I.e. what if she moved here, fell in with a bad crowd and started skipping school/breaking curfew?

Basically, I think what I'm asking is....if you were going to take in a teenager who was far away from her parents (a good kid, polite, will probably find it terribly hard to adjust, but hopefully not too hard to make friends) and help them improve their life and prospects......what rules/conditions would you put in place? And would you also expect them to contribute to chores - and to what extent?

I know this is a strange situation and you will probably have more questions for me.... but I need to start seeking advice from somewhere, and where better than mumsnet?

I don't even know what I'll do about school, if we decide to take her in. Can I call a local school and explain the situation and expect them to take a student 5 weeks into an academic year?

My mind is boggling at the amount of admin this may require....
thanks for listening.

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Romilly70 · 26/09/2012 22:12

OP, you sound lovely! That poor girl, she is so brave coming over to the unknown and needs someone as caring and thoughtful as you.
You may find she is a great addition to your family and will be lovely with your DS's.

However, i do think that you should be prepared for her to be with you for a couple of years until she finishes her schooling. There are no guarantees that her family will be able to get to the uk quickly and you really do not want her to be disrupted again.

all the best!

slambang · 26/09/2012 22:14

Is the brother where she's staying close to you?

As you haven't yet offered to have her, I'd first see what brother actually does and doesn't do for her. It may be he actually has more plans than he's letting on. In the meantime you could meet her, have her to stay for a weekend or 2 and get to know her, so if you feel you need to step in she will at least know what she'd be going to. If you step in too fast I'm sure brother will gladly relinquish all his responsibilities like a shot.

slambang · 26/09/2012 22:15

loads of cross posts so ignore half my post please!

SomeoneThatYouUsedToKnow · 26/09/2012 22:16

What a crazy situation. Shock. Can you arrange to meet her as soon as possible then you can make a more informed desicion. It seems a bit too risky to offer her a home without even having met her. Confused. It might be that she is lovely and that you could have her live with you.

It would be best if things were sorted out very quickly if possible. Otherwise she will end up not being able to catch up with this years school work. If she is bright she could do the International Baccalaureate, this means she wouldn't need GCSE's for (most) Uni's. Our local college offers the IB and even though it is state college there are quite a few DC's who come from overseas to study there.

It is unlikely she would be able to go to Uni straight after A'level's and be classed as a 'home' and not 'overseas' student.

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SomeoneThatYouUsedToKnow · 26/09/2012 22:17

X posting by me too Blush

LittleBairn · 26/09/2012 22:20

bluebells you sound like a really caring person even if you decide not to take her in I'm sure your family being part of her Uk life will make a great deal of difference to her.

Maybe make contact, meet up but don't offer to have her then. Of you think you could all get on make the offer to her parents and brother.

On schooling, it. Ought be worth posting on the home ed section and seeing what advice they could give you on home study. The fact that she is willing to come all this way by herself to better herself IMO shows that she is really motivated to do well.
Many local authorities allow people to sit in on their exams (they have to paid for think it's something like £50 per exam) so she may be able to sit the exams if she will home study.

In my experience American teens can be a lot less familiar with public transport, I would go with her the first few times she uses the bus or train.

Rules be friendly but clear that her living with you will only work if you all get along. Any trouble she would have to go to her brothers.

Her getting a job, she needs awhile to settle in but I don't think their would be any harm in her doing something like babysitting for some extra pocket money.

LittleBairn · 26/09/2012 22:21

Oops the Ought was supposed to be Might.

Phineyj · 26/09/2012 22:24

There are Open University modules designed for sixth formers, I believe, and OU normally don't have too much in the way of requirements to sign up.

OrangeandGoldMrsDeVere · 26/09/2012 22:25

You do not have to inform the LA as this is not a Private Foster care arrangement because she is over 16 (unless she as a disability in which case the cut off age is 18)

Just FYI.

Ihatemakingpackedlunches · 26/09/2012 22:25

I know this is not helpful or perhaps even relevant, but how has she managed to leave the US without a passport - her UK one from when she was 3 surely can't be valid and if she is "illegal" she would not be able to apply for a US passport - all sounds a bit strange to me!

slambang · 26/09/2012 22:28

Another option: it sounds as if the brother's main concern is financial and he's offereing her free board and lodging but no pocket money (which is fair enough if the family are strapped for cash. If you are more comfortably off, perhaps you could offer to help out with a temporary allowance for her?

Just a thought...

Although with both of the couple working 60 hours a week it seems surprising that they are quite that poor. Perhaps they didn't expect her so soon as they weren't expecting her to get her air fare paid.

Ihatemakingpackedlunches · 26/09/2012 22:29

Sorry just noticed OP said she has a passport, but really unsure of how she would have got one in her circumstances - if she couldn't enrol in college as she is "illegal" she would certainly not be able to get a passport? Or am I missing something!?

bluebellsanddaffodils · 26/09/2012 22:29

She applied for a British passport (her first one) via the consulate in America. It arrived last week. She travelled to America on her parents' passport 13 years ago.

Thanks for all of the replies... it's so helpful to hear other opinions. I think we will see how she gets on with her brother, and send her a couple of care packages. We will invite her to stay for a weekend or two and see how she is.

I like the idea of a part time/full time job and maybe sitting one or two GCSES at a local college this year and then shopping around for courses to do properly next year. Plus local sports clubs etc to meet people

Thanks again for all replies

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bluebellsanddaffodils · 26/09/2012 22:31

I will also send her pocket money I think - she should be allowed to go out and meet her new friends for a starbucks etc without money being an issue. Poor girl... it must be so so scary

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bluebellsanddaffodils · 26/09/2012 22:31

She has also only seen her brother once since she left England when she was 3, so we are literally ALL strangers to her

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Ihatemakingpackedlunches · 26/09/2012 22:35

OK re passport - apologies for quizzing you!

Himalaya · 26/09/2012 22:40

How old is the half brother?
Do you think he really did expect her to come or just made a spur of the moment suggestion thinking it would never happen?

gallicgirl · 26/09/2012 22:41

I hope it goes well.

I think if you take her in, maybe sit down with her and agree some ground rules as far as behaviour and expectations are concerned.

I don't know if Learn Direct are still around, but I found them really helpful when looking for adult education courses. connexions might be better for a teen. They can help with a cv and college applications and all sorts I believe.

gallicgirl · 26/09/2012 22:41

www.direct.gov.uk/en/YoungPeople/index.htm

NotDavidTennant · 26/09/2012 22:50

Maybe it would be a good idea to have her over for some short visits first and get a feel for the situation before you make any firm offers to take her in?

sashh · 27/09/2012 11:02

On the practical side go for college not school. SHe will be able to do GCSE Maths, English and probably science at college. Shew won't get to sit 10-12 GCSEs but three in one year, in a new system will work out OK.

Then she can think about A Levels or another college course. By the time she is ready to apply to uni she will have been here 3 years so will be able to go to uni here if she wants, or in the states.

You need to talk to the DSS, you might be able to get child benefit, she might be entitled to something, but not for at least 6 months. This is also important as she might not be eligable to recieve NHS treatment because she hasn't been 'ordinarily resident'.

You sound fabulous.

I went to Australia at 16, for a holiday so very different, but stayed with family I never met. When I went back 15 years later they said "Oh you just fitted i then, and you fit in now".

bluebellsanddaffodils · 27/09/2012 14:00

her half bro is 37, his wife 30 - I think they thought it would never actually happen. She's now in the UK and they're trying to figure something out

i am 26, my DH 32

Sashh, I'm coming to a similar conclusions re: courses, thanks for confirming it for me

The NHS isn't something I'd thought of, as apparently she has an NHS card with her - no idea when it was issued though. Sigh. so much to think about!

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mummytime · 27/09/2012 14:17

She should be able to get NHS treatment as long as she can prove she is here to stay. This should help as you can see as she plans to live here permenantly she is entitled to NHS care immediately.
Her carers should probably contact the LA immediately to get some advice. If she is 16 the best source of education may well be a college, but there may be extra funding available.

SecondhandRose · 28/09/2012 16:26

Do you know what, this actually might be a lovely young girl who will actually be an asset to you and your family. Dont judge her yet. Look on the bright side, she has her whole life ahead and hopefully lots of fun to be had here in the UK - there could be an awful lot worse places to travel to.

bluebellsanddaffodils · 28/09/2012 20:36

Update, for all those interested. We have offered to take her in; the situation was getting ridiculous. She arrived in England in summer clothes, with no coat or waterproof shoes and nobody who was prepared to get her any. It's actually unbelievable. Whoever said 'mind-numbingly irresponsible' that's totally right. I couldn't stand it anymore, so we offered, and I've been out today to buy her bedding, dressing gown, slippers, magazines, socks etc. We're meeting her tomorrow and I'll take her out to buy a coat and some boots (where to go? we can afford to take her in but I hardly ever buy myself new clothes, so don't want to spend loads on her. Primark? Tesco?)

She isn't entitled to free education until she's been here 6 months, so she will have to wait until next september (She'll be 17, nearly 18 by next september, october birthday) so fingers crossed we can get her into an FE college for her GCSEs. I have an english degree so I can tutor her at home for english GCSE, but will need to find someone to help with maths and science. I'm hoping she can do lots of home study before next Sept to make it an easier transition.

I don't know where to start re: child benefit or financial support.... do I approach the local council offices and CAB? Is that the main starting point.

My kids are under two.... I'm worried about what we're letting ourselves in for. My husband works away every other month Confused

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