bit of a rant but it has been really bothering me the last few days dd1 is in college but staying at home she is building up to do a degree , we said we would happily pay her travel etc as long as she got a job to help herself which she did , we didnt think a loan was the way to go at the moment , in the last week or so all she has gone on about is loan this loan that i could so X YZ if i had a loan , Im fuming and maybe we shouldve let her get on with it and let her see what its like living on her own paying bill s etc , we bought and insured her car but it still isnt good enough for her she wants more which we arnt prepared to give in to , I have created a spoiled monster 