having just seen and posted on the thread about national service I think we need to remind people that all teens are not thugs, so lets talk about them..\
my ds is 19 and yes he is on JS at the moment but the help he gives me looking after his severely disabled sister it a big commitment from him, he doesn't drink or smoke.
he isn't a thug who got involved in the student/recent thuggery.
his friends are the same, all helping at home and helping either in the community or with disability.
he isn't a saint, he has piercings, tattoo's and long hair(and a love of metal)
so come on tell me about your non thuggish teen