is there some kind of fashion initiation into the upper middle class in this country

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and does it in volev quilted jackets, suede loafers on men, strange 1980s haircuts and wax jackets?

oh nad vile coloured cords?

Its like stepping back in time

i have never seen as much quilting in one place.

Last bit: 'Bronze twisting lion'.

That sounds more like it.

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Where did that lion come from then?

I was never that good at Lat I must admit.

Go to Whitstable, Kent on a weekend and the DFL's wll show you a line in middle class cuntry clothing. Just do not forget your flat cap

All I ever see there are dfls in sunglasses and leather jackets! Usually emerging from a seaside 'cottage' they ahve rented and trying to find a shop that is open on a sunday as they have run out of quails eggs

DH has numerous Barbour and Schoffel coats as he goes shooting and you have to look the part so the birds don't faint at the sight of cheap cloth. It isn't a fashion statement, you need to be warm and waterproof.

lol @ quail eggs. They will be lucky, especially with the cutard shortage

custard obviously

aBetaDad wow i actually like the tight knit of those

nice trousers too!

Angry, that is hysterical WTF???

my FIL used to eat quail's eggs for breakfast. I never saw the point in it.

there is nothing to them

We have schoffel but they are not at all posh. They are more hiking gear really - and none of it is mustard coloured.

schoffel is not posh

there is another one German or Austrian or something which îs posh but I can't remember the name.

What's wrong with posh, anyway?

I dare you to go and post that on one of those "Is there anything good about a Tory" political threads of recent days.

you can still be posh if you like

I just don't find my schoffel stuff posh. It's just bright (or black) down to earth hiking stuff, not like Barbour at all.

You're on abeta .....

Er where do I find them?

Abeta I am supposed to be marking essays on life afer death, your heavenly night wear is a distraction.

Nooka, we may be related? Parents made a point of only buying clothing that would last at least a century. And then passing everything down.

thepobble - those threads seem to have calmed down since the party conferences have stopped. I guess you could start one along the lines of:

AIBU to think it does not matter that some Tory MPs are posh?".

Bet you get lots of YABU replies.

They were obviously the forerunners of the green movement . Actually I do think that often they were a little bit too keen on saving the pennies and never ever appearing to have money. My cousin became an advertising executive and married a property developer. My mother has never really got over how all their friends at their wedding were yuppies (and boy were they) much frowned on for being ostentatious and vulgar in my mother's eyes (and most of her generation to be honest). As a child I never really thought that we were well off, as I really envied my friends with clothes of their own (I'm the youngest of four), central heating and TVs.

However I have to say that my father's wardrobe isn't that different from Abetadads. Don't think I'd be able to find my mothers though.

Very apt article in Times 2 today about Barbour.

Perhaps its time to put my old Barbours on ebay!

Were do they learn to tie this ?

oh tying a cravat is easy - it's more or less just an overhand as the shape ofthe cravat does the owrk for you

much easier than a bow tie