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Charity shops, I apologise

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thedevilinablackdress · Yesterday 07:56

I've loved charity shopping for over 30 years, but like many I've long mixed it with online second hand shopping.
The stories in this Guardian article are not new to those of us who've read threads on here, work in the shops or know people who do.
I never sell online myself and am a very mindful donatter, but my own eBay addiction and Vinted dabbling is contributing to this in a way.
Shops won't want to discourage donations, but it seems more push back on the mountains of crap is needed.

www.theguardian.com/fashion/2026/oct/13/people-sell-their-best-stuff-on-vinted-how-charity-shops-became-a-dumping-ground-for-unsellable-clothes

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letmebetheone · Yesterday 15:45

Cadeaukatze · Yesterday 15:35

Blimey jeans are something I would pick up in a charity shop if they had them! Don't rag them for goodness sake! Get rid of some of the other tat you put out instead! This just shows that staff have no idea.

I did buy a pair about three years ago for £3 in a charity shop in Devon and wore them around the house until they wore out. And they weren't a "label" like Levis or Lee. If they had been, I'd probably still have them (obviously wuoud have probably paid more too but that's ok).

Edited

Nothing to do with the staff having no idea.
All our stock is put on the rails for a maximum of 14 days. We date the stock and take items off to rag every week so there are continually new items on the rails. We get so many donations we have to rag stock off the shop floor regularly to make space for the next lot of donations.

At the moment we have a circular rail which holds around 40 pairs of jeans. It is always full, as we sell them they are replaced. Our jeans are £2.50 a pair. We must rag 20-30 pairs of jeans every 2 weeks.

Doesn't matter if they are cheap makes or Levis, we work on the theory that if they have sat on the rails for 2 weeks and not sold they need to go to make room for new stock.

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 15:49

Blimey jeans are something I would pick up in a charity shop if they had them! Don't rag them for goodness sake! Get rid of some of the other tat you put out instead! This just shows that staff have no idea.

Our figures consistently showed that trousers and skirts were very slow to sell. We could sell 20 tops for every one pair of trousers, and we had decent branded trousers from Next, M&S, Zara etc. The general feeling is that people are happy to buy a dress, jacket or top but are not comfortable for whatever reason for wearing something which has been around someone else's bum and crotch. BNWT trousers sold OK. Used didn't.

Purplebunnie · Yesterday 16:08

Londonmummy66 · Yesterday 12:47

Part of the problem is the difficulty of being able to recycle textiles. We bought a lot of bedding when we moved to our house 25 years ago and that is now starting to wear thin. There is literally nowhere in my vicinity to recycle textiles. As I sew I was able to cut out the better bits to use but the rest had to go in the bin and that isn't ideal.

Have the same problem. Originally 100% Egyptian cotton sheet but must have worn thin and now has a tear in it. DH must have had a torn nail and ripped it. It's got to go in the weekly waste collection and rot on a dump as can't go anywhere else. At one point it would have been turned into carpet tiles but not anymore. It's very sad - I hate waste.

Everything I take to a charity shop, regardless of whether for re-sale or rags (which I put in a separate bag) is washed and clean but sadly not everyone has done this - the few spoiling it for everyone and now the charity shops are refusing to take stuff and I don't blame them.

nuttymut · Yesterday 16:18

MotherWol · Yesterday 14:38

@NagathaCrispy this is really interesting, and I really appreciate the work that volunteers do. In the case where you have an oversupply in some categories, are you able to judge new stock against what’s currently on the shop floor, e.g pull cheaper brand jeans off to rag and rotate in the Levi’s? Or is it just that new donations are over quota?

I try to be careful with my donations and make sure for eg that I’m donating saleable stock to stores with good turnover, but it’s always interesting to see behind the scenes!

In my shop , we have back up stock all ready to go on the shop floor , when a rail gets depleted . So those Levi’s upthread would be backup or sent to another shop . Parking is easy at my shop , so we get loads of donation . Some of the shops are in a town centre with minimal parking , so stock gets passed on

Genevieva · Yesterday 16:19

I always give our good quality (bought new) clothes to Age Concern. SometimesI have to complain because if a temporary volunteer handles the stuff they don't attach my account number to all the donations, and then I don't get notified when they sell. This really irritates me. Especially when have see my donations in the shop and then have seen that they aren't there any more.

Secretseverywhere · Yesterday 16:21

BreezyClouds · Yesterday 10:29

I darent give my best stuff to charity shops because I know a lot of them just don't have the time or storage to deal with the volume of stuff so send lots of unopened bags to the rag van.

I have some very expensive stuff that's barely worn and plenty of new with tags things that missed the mark, I don't want them shredded. I stick them on vinted at a price that sells immediately or advertised as a bundle for free on Facebook where presumably someone else sells them.

Is there any charity where I could be sure they'd be reused? I care more about waste than raising money.

As an aside, do the charity shops make significant money? The one in my village must pay a lot of rent, I assumed they just covered their costs and gave people something to do with their time .

I think asking whether charity shops make significant money is a good one. You’d yhink theyd be taking it in free stock, free Labour, often reduced rents and rates. Although the turnover can be in the hundreds of millions the net profit seems generally to be under 10%. which is why charities are trimming their worst performing stores

The amount they generate is dwarfed by by legacy gifts. I do wonder though if larger charities recieve more legacies as they are so visible on the high street and if that will change if they shift to out of town warehouse style thrift superstores.

TheGentleHelper · Yesterday 16:22

If you want to get a good deal in a charity shop now you have to work there.

The best stuff the staff get the first shot at.

nuttymut · Yesterday 16:24

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 15:49

Blimey jeans are something I would pick up in a charity shop if they had them! Don't rag them for goodness sake! Get rid of some of the other tat you put out instead! This just shows that staff have no idea.

Our figures consistently showed that trousers and skirts were very slow to sell. We could sell 20 tops for every one pair of trousers, and we had decent branded trousers from Next, M&S, Zara etc. The general feeling is that people are happy to buy a dress, jacket or top but are not comfortable for whatever reason for wearing something which has been around someone else's bum and crotch. BNWT trousers sold OK. Used didn't.

I think another reason for jeans and trousers not selling well is that many charity shops have closed the changing room due to shoplifting. My shop hasn’t had a changing room for over a year . Customers do get 28 days to return items though .

nuttymut · Yesterday 16:29

Genevieva · Yesterday 16:19

I always give our good quality (bought new) clothes to Age Concern. SometimesI have to complain because if a temporary volunteer handles the stuff they don't attach my account number to all the donations, and then I don't get notified when they sell. This really irritates me. Especially when have see my donations in the shop and then have seen that they aren't there any more.

There could be other reasons for not seeing your donations in the shop. Out of season clothes go in a winter or summer bag. It could be backup stock or stock sent to another shop .
or it may have sold . We’ve had donations in the morning which have sold by the afternoon.

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:31

Genevieva · Yesterday 16:19

I always give our good quality (bought new) clothes to Age Concern. SometimesI have to complain because if a temporary volunteer handles the stuff they don't attach my account number to all the donations, and then I don't get notified when they sell. This really irritates me. Especially when have see my donations in the shop and then have seen that they aren't there any more.

Age concern notifies you of every sale?!

AFAIC I give my postcode so that the charity can claim the gift aid and I get a summary at the end of the year of how much my stuff sold for in total, which I can put on my tax return.

nuttymut · Yesterday 16:33

TheGentleHelper · Yesterday 16:22

If you want to get a good deal in a charity shop now you have to work there.

The best stuff the staff get the first shot at.

At my shop items have to be on the shop floor for 2 days before staff can buy them.
Although I have seen staff squirrel away stuff .

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:34

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 15:49

Blimey jeans are something I would pick up in a charity shop if they had them! Don't rag them for goodness sake! Get rid of some of the other tat you put out instead! This just shows that staff have no idea.

Our figures consistently showed that trousers and skirts were very slow to sell. We could sell 20 tops for every one pair of trousers, and we had decent branded trousers from Next, M&S, Zara etc. The general feeling is that people are happy to buy a dress, jacket or top but are not comfortable for whatever reason for wearing something which has been around someone else's bum and crotch. BNWT trousers sold OK. Used didn't.

I find it easier to eyeball a top and decide if it will fit than to do so with trousers (which might fit on the hip and bag at the waist, or whatever).

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 16:35

TheGentleHelper · Yesterday 16:22

If you want to get a good deal in a charity shop now you have to work there.

The best stuff the staff get the first shot at.

Please tell me what the best stuff is?
is your best stuff the same as my best stuff?

wavingfuriously · Yesterday 16:36

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 13:29

There is (or was - haven't been up this year) a very good charity shop in Ballater.

The owner of a local boutique at one point was buying goods from there to sell in the vintage section of her store.

😟 thats awful

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 16:36

Genevieva · Yesterday 16:19

I always give our good quality (bought new) clothes to Age Concern. SometimesI have to complain because if a temporary volunteer handles the stuff they don't attach my account number to all the donations, and then I don't get notified when they sell. This really irritates me. Especially when have see my donations in the shop and then have seen that they aren't there any more.

Do you mean your gift aid number?

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:38

wavingfuriously · Yesterday 16:36

😟 thats awful

Why is it awful?

Somethinggg · Yesterday 16:39

Great article.

I like the term 'wish give'. It's useful. Comes up on here reasonably often when people are talking about having to sort through loads of stuff, be it their own or someone else's, it's often clear that some people won't accept the idea that there being life left in something doesn't mean a charity shop can reasonably expect to get enough for it to cover the costs of labour.

wavingfuriously · Yesterday 16:41

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:38

Why is it awful?

Because the person owning shop makes money and not the charity (shop )!

hagchic · Yesterday 16:44

@wavingfuriously they both make money - and the shop owner and possibly any staff are actually employed.

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:45

wavingfuriously · Yesterday 16:41

Because the person owning shop makes money and not the charity (shop )!

The charity shop sells at £5 (or whatever) on the donation of a top, making £5 gross profit before shop overheads.

The vintage shop sells the top at £10 (or whatever) and makes £5 gross profit, from which they have to pay staff as well as shop overheads.

Both parties make a margin. All good.

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 16:45

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 16:35

Please tell me what the best stuff is?
is your best stuff the same as my best stuff?

People always go on about best stuff. As I said upthread my best stuff is quirky ceramics, knitting yarn, history books, other craft stuff, the occasional dress, jigsaws for my mum. I have zero interest in clubbing outfits, children's clothes, handbags, shoes, board games, recipe books, hats.

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 16:46

The owner of a local boutique at one point was buying goods from there to sell in the vintage section of her store.

No you have misread. The owner of a local, for profit shop, was buying stock from the charity shop. Which is fine.

hagchic · Yesterday 16:47

Plus the vintage shop will pay full rates to the local authority, contributing to the local area. Charity shop - either 80 per cent or more discount, so not so much.

Vintage shop might pay VAT and likely will pay some sort of income tax/NI - so again giving back.

Charity shops are not necessarily a public good - they might be good for the specific charity, but they are quite harmful to local economies and high streets.

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 16:49

KassandraOfSparta · Yesterday 16:45

People always go on about best stuff. As I said upthread my best stuff is quirky ceramics, knitting yarn, history books, other craft stuff, the occasional dress, jigsaws for my mum. I have zero interest in clubbing outfits, children's clothes, handbags, shoes, board games, recipe books, hats.

Exactly! Volunteers taking all the ‘best stuff’ gets trotted out on all charity threads. My best stuff is detective fiction, which I buy with my staff discount, read and re- donate with my gift aid number.

SheilaFentiman · Yesterday 16:51

Charity shops are not necessarily a public good - they might be good for the specific charity, but they are quite harmful to local economies and high streets.

I’m not convinced of this - on grounds that vape shops and nail bars proliferate in any empty stores, not boutiques and greengrocers.