I'd like to make my lips look bigger by using some subtle lip liner without much lipstick.
I'm pale, and so far had found it difficult to get the right shade. They're either too red, too pink, or too orangey, including all the ones that are labelled 'nude'.
Either they're not good with colour blending, or they cut back on mixing too many pigments to keep costs down, which means most of them don't have enough blue in the mixture (same as why so many foundations lack enough green pigments which results in an orange look, maybe).
Of course, there are plum liners out there....but then they're obviously made for dark, plum & purple lips sticks. Using them very lightly to get a paler effect doesn't always work or look good either as it then looks too patchy or the undertone is different from the masstone .
Unfortunately, due to living very rurally, most local shops stock Rimmel or Mabelline, and that's it, so my ability to really shop around is limited. When I was in a city a month or two ago, it was hard to test anyway since so many brands had no testers at all, which is very annoying!