Do men still wear ties anywhere ?

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Watching a 1980s video and men are wearing ties as normal every day wear

DH wore one to a wedding a few years ago , and funerals

I worked in tech so ties were kept in desk drawers for the one day a year they would be needed. Do younger men even have them?

Man wearing tie.

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It's quite interesting how much work attire has changed. I was on the platform at Northern City one weekday early evening recently and it struck me that you couldn't distinguish people who had been shopping, were going home from work, or going away on a trip. At one time office workers would have been easily identified by their clothing.

All secondary schools around here insist on ties, which I am sure doesn't make their behaviour any better.

Husband used to wear one for work & when we went clubbing 🤣. Long time ago tho.

Not even for weddings or funerals. Sadly more recently funerals have been for friends in late 50s who preferred people to come as they pleased so to speak.

And no one at work anymore.

Not universally true though as most of the male teachers didn’t wear ties in my children’s fairly decent secondary school.

I'm in NZ. No one wears them except lawyers and accountants (sometimes), government ministers, senior businessmen and, yes, estate agents and a few others.

I think it's a shame there's no easy way for men to dress up without the risk of making yourself a spectacle but the truth is that the suit / tie combo had become a uniform, and often a dowdy, cheap and ill- fitting one at that.

Luckily, our friends and family are the kinds of people who have moved with the times don’t think a tie specifically is required for a man to demonstrate respect. I guess it depends what matters to the bride, but we really don’t have the kinds of friends who would stress about the precise details of what their guests wear. I strongly doubt any of my friends would notice, still less care, if a man was wearing a tie to their wedding or not. I personally think most men look nicer without one.

DP was not the only tieless man at my niece’s outdoor, summer wedding. Glorious weather, beautiful weather, everyone enjoying themselves, stunning and happy bride. I don’t think being ‘miffed’ at sartorial details was high on her agenda.

At an ultra formal, old school wedding like the ones I remember going to 25 years ago when it was all women in fascinators and grooms in top hat and tails, sure, wear a tie. But most modern weddings just aren’t like that.

In an actual patient care setting, like ward rounds etc, doctors aren’t supposed to wear ties. They’re supposed to wear short sleeves, or roll sleeves up to the elbow, and they shouldn’t wear ties or scarves. Ties and shirt sleeves are an infection risk.

A doctor who is wearing a tie is either not good at infection control, or is not actually examining or treating patients. If a consultant wears a tie in his office, he should be removing it for ward rounds or examining patients.

DH45 doesn't wear a tie to work anymore, the last few times have been weddings and funerals.

Since covid he doesn't always wear a shirt, a smart polo seems to be fine. He dressed more smartly as sales rep 20 years ago than he does now as a manger.

I've noticed that the CEO's of the large corporate company I work for rarely wear a tie even if they are wearing a suit.

Times change I suppose.

Dh will only wear a tie to weddings and funerals.
He used to wear one years ago when he was a manager but since changing roles doesn't now. Currently there are no Jen in my team work. The last ones who worked there did wear ties.

I have mixed feelings about 'moving with the times'. I agree that it shouldn't be necessary for a man to show respect by wearing a tie, and it shouldn't be necessary to wear a tie to look smart. But I also think it's important for men to look smart and show respect through their clothes on occasion. Suits and ties haven't been replaced with anything equivalent. The last time I was at a funeral a lot of men looked like they might have been at the supermarket.

The hearse and coffin probably tipped people off that it wasn’t the supermarket though, right?

I think making the effort to attend and mourn shows far more respect than wearing a strand of cloth around their necks.

Turning up shows more respect than wearing a tie? That point only works if in the past men were in the habit of putting on ties and staying at home while the funeral happened, and then claiming that they'd shown sufficient respect to the deceased. Maybe that used to happen. I haven't heard it.

Once again, I think wearing a tie isn't necessary to show respect, but yes I do think people should show respect in their clothes. No one is so important that just turning up is sufficient: that's the bare minimum.

I don’t want anyone in a tie at my funeral. They can show respect in a t shirt.

The men in my family including DH only wear ties at weddings and maybe funerals. DH does wear a shirt and trousers to work though, occasionally with a blazer.

I do wish people were a bit smarter but at the same time recognise that ties are a bit pointless.
My grandad always wore a shirt with a collar. A tie would be added on a Sunday. Never left the house without his hat. DH has to wear a suit and tie for work. I think he looks very handsome.

This triggered me to look at the website of the shop I usually buy ties from. I see that apart from some unbranded ones, they are all Italian. Do Italian men still wear ties?

They no longer have any Liberty ties, and I can see from the reviews that they are targeting the wedding market for ties and pocket squares, and selling matched sets for groomsmen.

My teenage ds wears a tie as part of his uniform at his part time job. He is a steward at events. Next weekend he will standing in a field all weekend wearing dress shoes, trousers, a white shirt, tie and a hi vis.

Turning up shows more respect than wearing a tie?

Of course it does. It shouldn’t even be a question.

Once again, I think wearing a tie isn't necessary to show respect, but yes I do think people should show respect in their clothes.

Those two points are incompatible.

How?

Your comparison doesn't make sense. And why the fixation with ties? I'm not advocating for them.

Some sectors of the population wear them when they go to court and not in a good way 😂 Others do wear ties to work depending on the career and if client facing.

Hypocritical if staff don’t wear ties and expect the children to wear them.

Staff at my child’s secondary school all wear suits and look very smart. They also encourage children to remove their ties and blazers in hot weather. Any child can ask to remove their blazer if they are warm and will be granted permission. They still get excellent exam results.

How can staff wear trainers yet expect kids to be smart?

Senior management set uniform rules not teachers.

Its not hypocritical. Staff are not students. I worked in the best comprehensive outside London. Staff wore jeans.

Who cares about looking smart?