Knee-length black cargo shorts?

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I am looking for a very specific sort of shorts:

• Knee-length
• Size 12-14
• Black
• Probably denim or other thick canvas-like cotton
• Cargo, possibly with other outside detailing as well as several pockets (Almost any amount of extra structural detailing is fine (zips/studs/rips/tags/loops etc), but not specific brands/symbols/patches.
• Gothy/Punk vibe rather than e.g.: hiking
• Hanging straps/"braces"/long chains in side-loop, or at minimum suitable belt-loops to clip long keychain chains onto.

In my mind these are reasonably straight or loose, as in men's clothing - definitely not based off stretch lycra/skinnies.

Any ideas?

I just googled “goth shorts” and there seems to be a few specific websites that sell goth clothing and have shorts that sound like they meet your criteria - https://www.emp.co.uk/topics/gothic/clothing/trousers/shorts/

Otherwise H&M have these kind of things

https://www2.hm.com/en_gb/productpage.1225438001.html

www2.hm.com/en_gb/productpage.1217796001.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mk_gb%7Cln_eng%7Cpl_google%7Cct_sh%7Cbu_divided%7Ckt_comp%7Cbg_performance%7Ccs_shopv2%7Cadt_all%7Csp_low%7Cpi_gbg06anu3aa014&utm_term=&hier_id=go_cmp-16434780891_adg-132656634934_ad-585111376233_pla-1410014612393_dev-m_ext-_prd-en-1217796001007_sig-EAIaIQobChMI37uNvLuGjQMVgUJBAh0vXxikEAQYAyABEgJRBfD_BwE&utm_source=Google&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADvrmzR8Gc6jrH2fuV21poFEGj262&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI37uNvLuGjQMVgUJBAh0vXxikEAQYAyABEgJRBfD_BwE

Carhartt? https://www.carhartt-wip.com/en/women-shorts/w-brandon-short-blue-rinsed-1989_1

https://www.carhartt-wip.com/en/women-shorts/w-brandon-single-knee-short-blue-rinsed-120_1

Depending on your shape, it might be worth looking at men's as there will be more choice. DP lives in these shorts but he buys his from Screwfix(!)

https://www.screwfix.com/c/safety-workwear/work-shorts/cat6920001?brand=dickies

They do have a small Dickies logo, but that's a positive not a negative to those in the know. There's a long history of skate/alternative types wearing Dickies clothing.

If I can't find the colour I want I just dye them black or whatever colour I want. I've been doing it for years. Minimal cost.

I think I saw some like this in primark men’s section OP

Ooh, I'm don't wear shorts, but I love some of the carhartt ones. Does anyone know how their sizing works? It's just Xs, S, M & L.

@dudsvillesorry no clue but they are always designed quite baggy. Skater style. Is there a size guide?

Thanks, that's good to know. I didn't see a size guide, but I was on my phone. I'll go back when on my laptop.

Have a look at Bershka. They’re good at baggy jorts.