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newrubylane · 24/08/2024 21:32

Saschka · 24/08/2024 15:04

I have been reading articles about capsule wardrobes for more than 30 years, and they are always exactly the same. Cigarette pants, wide legged palazzo pants, blazer, Chanel jacket, white shirt, loafers. Who is wearing this stuff?

Who except for Theresa May has worn kitten heels since 1998? Who has worn ballet flats since 2010?

Anybody wearing this is going to look like an escapee from Miami Vice circa 1984. Which is fine, it’s a definite look, but not exactly relevant to most adult women.

To be fair, ballet flats are back (again). And I've been wearing them fairly constantly for the last 20 years, but that's because they particularly work for me (skinny feet and ankles - the chunky shoe trend made me look like all my shoes were three sizes too big.)

JennyForeigner · 24/08/2024 21:37

Glitterglitch · 24/08/2024 18:36

Who has worn ballet flats since 2010?

They have been back in since last year…

Or indeed, a breton t-shirt

I pretty much hated it, on the grounds that I am not a French size 8. I hated the token curvy girl red dress most of all those. Such a harsh red, so stiff and over-priced, much ugly.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 24/08/2024 21:38

ShutTheFuckUpCakes · 24/08/2024 14:05

What a total joke 🤣

Some of us need things like...waterproofs? Dog walking boots? Thermals?

Some of us like our clothing to have a bit of personality or colour.

We don't all live in London and work in an office!

Agree - the wardrobe is obviously curated with city professionals in mind. If you live or regularly spend time somewhere wetter/colder/muddier/more rural then this list is a bag of shite.

I'm all for a small wardrobe, and consuming less, but this would not work for everyone.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 24/08/2024 21:38

ShutTheFuckUpCakes · 24/08/2024 14:05

What a total joke 🤣

Some of us need things like...waterproofs? Dog walking boots? Thermals?

Some of us like our clothing to have a bit of personality or colour.

We don't all live in London and work in an office!

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EdithStourton · 24/08/2024 21:44

InfradeadToUltraviolent · 24/08/2024 20:57

At least the photo list has two coats: one wool and one waterproof (though I agree that the waterproof one should have a hood - who walks the dog with an umbrella?).

The accompanying article says that all the experts are unanimous that you only need one coat! Madness.

I'd say that one smart wool, one smart trench, one lightweight waterproof with a hood and one warm waterproof with a hood is the absolute minimum that I'd be prepared to strip down to for London living.

The accompanying article says that all the experts are unanimous that you only need one coat! Madness.
Even as an impoverished teenager (and we were seriously skint) I had a couple of coats, one lightweight and one warm.

Also, do I get points for once having had a pair of shoes that combined the baller-flat toe with kitten heels?

Babush · 24/08/2024 21:48

As usual the Guardian assumes every reader has a lifestyle exactly like a Guardian journalist.

I work in a school. I try to look smart and professional but sometimes I have to clean up vomit. I’m not doing that in expensive dry clean only clothes. H&M has to do the trick. Even expensive clothes don’t last well if you need to wash them often.

timetodecide2345 · 24/08/2024 21:50

What about the slouchy I can't be arsed today pyjamas with long wrap around cardigan to hide the food stains?

LoneHydrangea · 24/08/2024 21:52

Apart from ballet flats, kitten heels and a denim shirt, that pretty much describes my wardrobe. Actually, I don’t have a boxy jacket either as they make me look fat.

My work wardrobe for most of the year is cigarette pants with loafers or wide legged trousers with chunky white trainers. I also have several satin bias cut skirts.

My problem is I have far too many of everything. I need to cull.

Supersimkin7 · 24/08/2024 21:54

It’s the current capsule - they change with fashion, which sort of invalidates the whole idea. Still fun.

I’ve got the Ghost skirt and haven’t ever worn it. Too short. Jumper over Ghost slip dress better.

Camisole no good if you wear a bra. Vest from Cos better.

One jumper?!

Craftycorvid · 24/08/2024 21:57

To be fair, I am to a ‘capsule’ wardrobe what Atilla the Hun was to the power of diplomacy. I have a ridiculous amount of clothes because dressing up is fun and creating multiple looks is a bit of daily theatre in a sad world. Yes, I can certainly see the clothes in this article would all work together and they’re practical and classic but, but, but so dull! I’d be depressed contemplating that choice every day.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/08/2024 22:22

TheLeadbetterLife · 24/08/2024 20:41

Not to derail the thread, but I've never understood about "supportive" footwear, plantar fasciitis etc. Do people who don't wear shoes at all get these conditions?

To be fair, they haven't had their feet comprehensively fucked up through being squished into narrow pumps that they have to claw with their toes to hold on, constant pressure on the toe joint or the inability to spread their weight through three points and flex naturally since childhood, have they?

scorchia · 24/08/2024 22:26

who actually wears white shirts

ichundich · 24/08/2024 22:28

This would be so boring! I love my wardrobe and getting 'new' things all the time from charity shops and Vinted. Probably have at least 6 times as many items for a fraction of the price of this capsule wardrobe.

TheEuropaHotel · 24/08/2024 22:30

scorchia · 24/08/2024 22:26

who actually wears white shirts

I find them so unflattering on me. I bought one ages ago thinking I needed one as a "work horse" staple. I looked like big Dave from IT (I am a woman)

Anyway, even if the suited them, I'd likely spill coffee down the front and ruin it

ElizabethVonArnim · 24/08/2024 22:33

I think it's a really nice capsule wardrobe, but it's what you might pack for a week away in a city with work. How often would you have to do laundry if this was all you owned? And wouldn't you spill spaghetti bolognese down the white shirt immediately and be left wearing the inappropriate silky vest for all appointments?

RosesAndHellebores · 24/08/2024 22:34

Hmm. Some of the staples are available for less.

The coat is particularly awful but I'd like a dressing gown in a similar style.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/08/2024 22:52

scorchia · 24/08/2024 22:26

who actually wears white shirts

I do, but I think I should burn mine after reading this thread.

Flaskfan · 24/08/2024 23:01

Craftycorvid · 24/08/2024 21:57

To be fair, I am to a ‘capsule’ wardrobe what Atilla the Hun was to the power of diplomacy. I have a ridiculous amount of clothes because dressing up is fun and creating multiple looks is a bit of daily theatre in a sad world. Yes, I can certainly see the clothes in this article would all work together and they’re practical and classic but, but, but so dull! I’d be depressed contemplating that choice every day.

You are my fashion twin.

LuubyLuu · 24/08/2024 23:01

For those on this thread who have a capsule wardrobe, don't you get bored? And do you find your clothes 'wear' more quickly?

TheLeadbetterLife · 24/08/2024 23:03

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/08/2024 22:22

To be fair, they haven't had their feet comprehensively fucked up through being squished into narrow pumps that they have to claw with their toes to hold on, constant pressure on the toe joint or the inability to spread their weight through three points and flex naturally since childhood, have they?

I wasn't being disingenuous, though reading back I can see it sounds that way. I am barefoot 95% of the time, and wondering whether the supportive footwear thing is self-fulfilling i.e. it's shoes that fuck feet up in the first place.

Flaskfan · 24/08/2024 23:05

I came to mn in 2009. First time I read about Breton tops was on here. I have a few, but don't consider them fashionable. I wear them if I'm having a French day.

Plantar fasciitis gets worse with age. I've only experienced in since hitting my 40s, and I've worn all kinds of shoes.

I rock a white shirt. But I am lucky enough to have coathanger shoulders, so they hang well.

JamSanger · 24/08/2024 23:14

I suppose I do have a sort of capsule wardrobe.

However, I hate the majority of things in that list!

-Neither cigarette nor wide legged trousers suit my shape
-HATE cargo trousers & Breton tops
-ALLShirts look horrific with my big knockers, so the ‘staple white shirt’ has never worked for me and hell would freeze over before I’d ever wear a denim shirt.
-I don’t own a pair of white trainers
-I haven’t worn slingback kitten heels in 20 years.
-I have no need for a ‘Chanel-style’ jacket and can’t imagine ever wearing one
-I find skirts very tricky to style, and detest the bias-cut satin ones that are everywhere lately. Ugly,

So….Nah!

My capsule work wardrobe isn’t ’on tend’, but it suits my sense of style and shape:
Blazer
Silk blouse
Tapered ankle grazer trousers
Loafers or pointy flats

OR high necked dress, tights, boots with nod to 60s/Mod-ish style

I can make either look more dressy or formal or casual depending on how I style them, accessories, which shoes I wear, fabrics etc.

InfradeadToUltraviolent · 24/08/2024 23:15

RosesAndHellebores · 24/08/2024 22:34

Hmm. Some of the staples are available for less.

The coat is particularly awful but I'd like a dressing gown in a similar style.

They're trying to focus on sustainability / UK manufacture / organic cotton because they're the Guardian, so of course it's at the expensive end, but they're doing it really inconsistently, with thirty quid polyester/viscose Zara slacks contrasting with a T shirt for eighty five pounds (!) apparently hand woven by supermodels from spider silk.

piccolorhinoceros · 24/08/2024 23:15

LuubyLuu · 24/08/2024 23:01

For those on this thread who have a capsule wardrobe, don't you get bored? And do you find your clothes 'wear' more quickly?

I don't exactly have a capsule wardrobe, as I do have a lot of clothes, but I've been trying to streamline it recently and tend to wear the same sort of things in different combinations. I wear scrubs at work 90% of the time and jumpers and leggings/gym clothes usually at home. So my nice clothes are really only for going out, and rarely for the office. I don't get bored because I enjoy looking put together and I have more confidence that I look good and more confidence that the outfit works. Before I put the effort into streamlining my wardrobe I tended to wear the same things over and over again anyway, but it would usually be a safe outfit like jeans, a jumper and boots, while I bought loads of 'exciting' colourful clothes that languished in the wardrobe unworn. At least this way I can pair something a bit unusual with my neutral basics and it actually gets worn.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 24/08/2024 23:53

Andwegoroundagain · 24/08/2024 15:11

A lot of pairs of shoes to wear with not so many outfits !

That's what I thought. And the jackets.

I could probably manage with one padded waterproof jacket, trainers, boots and flat sandals.

But I would need a lot more tee shirts, sweaters and casual trousers.