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Beautiful women ageing

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PoinsettiaLives · 07/01/2024 11:08

I watched Saltburn last night and was struck by how Rosamund Pike’s looks have changed over the years. She looks fantastic and she has done it without trying to look artificially younger than she is- she definitely looks like a 45yo woman rather than a 45yo woman trying to look like a weird 30yo. An utterly beautiful woman fully growing into herself.

What’s the secret of this? (Other than being born beautiful?)

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velvetsunshine · 13/01/2024 23:52

WeRateSquirrels · 13/01/2024 08:32

How does this work if you’re naturally slim though? Do people really purposefully gain so much weight? I’d have to gain 3 stones to hit this and I can’t imagine my blood pressure or dodgy hip would be happy.

The idea is not to try to gain weight, but rather once you are beyond a certain age it is better to have extra reserves - statistically speaking - and should not try to lose weight to be at the "healthy weight range" recommended for the younger population.

You may find that you are more at risk for osteoporosis, at your weight, also.

GordoStevensMustache · 13/01/2024 23:54

Money and once she hits 50 the age will show.

PoinsettiaLives · 14/01/2024 07:34

I feel I’ve expressed myself badly in the OP. I don’t think RP looks young- she’s a similar age to me and my friends and she looks (age-wise) much like we do. What struck me was more how fantastic she looks as a woman in her 40s, and not “great for her age”, just great. I think she’s a great example of a woman who looks beautiful at every age without looking unnaturally young.

Beautiful women ageing
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OverTheGrip · 14/01/2024 08:20

Interesting posters saying money

i get that maybe if you’re on the breadline but I think saying money is often a cop out tbh

OverTheGrip · 14/01/2024 08:22

PoinsettiaLives · 14/01/2024 07:34

I feel I’ve expressed myself badly in the OP. I don’t think RP looks young- she’s a similar age to me and my friends and she looks (age-wise) much like we do. What struck me was more how fantastic she looks as a woman in her 40s, and not “great for her age”, just great. I think she’s a great example of a woman who looks beautiful at every age without looking unnaturally young.

Yes
My aim is to look good, regardless of age.
Not to look younger than I am.

Many of my friends don’t understand this

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/01/2024 08:49

Agree Jennifer Connolly is also ageing beautifully.

Great photo of KST above ... one thing I've noticed that amazing looking mature ladies have is a sharp well maintained but not fussy haircut.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/01/2024 08:50

BaconAndAvocado · 13/01/2024 09:03

I read somewhere that after a certain age women have to choose between their body and their face.

I choose my face!

Kristen Scott Thomas is exquisite, so classy. I think the top,part of my face is quite similar, high cheekbones.
The bottom half, hmm...........🤣

Ha! Same here. I'm managing to rock pretty good cheek bones and at the same time jowls the Churchill dog would envy! Grin

MattDamon · 14/01/2024 09:07

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/01/2024 08:49

Agree Jennifer Connolly is also ageing beautifully.

Great photo of KST above ... one thing I've noticed that amazing looking mature ladies have is a sharp well maintained but not fussy haircut.

Jennifer Connolly has had very good plastic surgery/tweaks but she's been smart enough not to overdo it.

https://www.instagram.com/celebrityplastics/p/CdOPc5iNmsV/

Instagram

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PoinsettiaLives · 14/01/2024 09:27

petticuliar · 13/01/2024 18:17

Carrying any extra fat in your later years adds incredible stress to the body.
Separately it doesn't make you look younger. It makes you look matronly. Yes you may have a plump face but that doesn't equal looking young. Looking young means moving like a young person. Having flexibility. Being strong and agile. Carrying extra weight make people look old.

I agree that how you move makes a big difference, although I think it’s as much to do with core strength as weight. Plenty of slim older people who move like old people due to weak core and posture.

I aspire to be like a friend’s mum who (mid 70s) looks after her four children. When I picked DD up the other day, she ran up the stairs two at a time to get her. I can’t even run up two at a time now 😂 30 years her junior.

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MiddleAgedKirin · 14/01/2024 10:27

Interesting OP, I thought RP was deliberately aged up in Saltburn? Through makeup, lighting etc. She looks much younger (ie her actual age) in interviews out of role.

NoNotMyHair · 14/01/2024 10:39

OverTheGrip · 14/01/2024 08:20

Interesting posters saying money

i get that maybe if you’re on the breadline but I think saying money is often a cop out tbh

I don't agree with this. Money just doesn't bring you treatments it brings you a knowledge that the wolf is not at the door. In this country it brings you the ability to use private dentists and maintain what is the basis of your lower face. I recently paid 1600 pounds for a root canal and crown. Everyone cannot afford that and may have had to lose a tooth. In my home town I see women who are not beautiful but who may have been when young but have been battered by generational unemployment, poverty and their lifestyle in general.

usedtobeasizeten · 14/01/2024 13:43

LaMarschallin · 13/01/2024 22:17

DinaofCloud9

And why are you pouting?

Somebody stole her harmonica?

She was drinking through a straw and airbrushed it out for the photo

HeadNorth · 14/01/2024 14:10

I get you OP - it is depressing that so many posters think older women looking fantastic means older women looking younger. Why does looking younger equal looking good? What is wrong with looking in your 50s/60s/70s etc. Are we saying it is impossible to both look 70 and to look good?

I have never aspired to look younger than my years. I am slim and fit entirely for my own benefit - you feel so much better when you eat healthily and excercise. I will never be beautiful, because I am not a beautiful woman - I don't have those genes. I may look my age but I have great core strength and can run up steps 2 at a time - there's no way I am sacrificing being slim for a few less wrinkles. Looking young is overrated.

malificent7 · 14/01/2024 17:20

So as women we are either too thin, too fat, waddle as we age and generally look shit after 50. Lovely.

Indifferentchickenwings · 14/01/2024 21:36

PortiaWithNoBreaks

agree , this is is what I’m doing basically !

the waist isn’t at its best after Xmas i have to say

gurnerandpooch · 14/01/2024 21:45

CharlotteRumpling · 07/01/2024 12:41

Yes, sorry, the film "Nyad" . On Netflix. I should have explained. She just looks so good. And not in a plastic way. Just a healthy weatherbeaten way.

Totally agree with this . She looks amazing

petticuliar · 14/01/2024 21:45

harrietpot · 13/01/2024 18:32

I am thin and I think it makes me look haggard and old. My friend is not fat but she isn't skinny either and I think it makes her looks years younger than me and she is actually older. She doesn't look matronly at all and she is very fit and healthy. Carrying some fat under your skin is youthful in my view but being very overweight isn't but you don't need to be overweight to have some nice facial fat.

I think also different people focus on different things, I know lots of women for who being very slim and toned is how they see themselves and others as looking youthful but often they don't they look their age or older due to their faces but they are slim and fit which is youthful in another way. I think some heavier women think they look young due to having fewer lines but I find heavy women often look kind of ageless but not automatically younger.

I try to gain some weight but it all goes on my arse and legs first which are my best features these days.

It all comes down to what people consider 'fat' or 'thin' 😹. It's true. Being under or overweight ages us. Sadly. And some people hold fat in their face whilst others lose it from their face.

Indifferentchickenwings · 14/01/2024 21:45

Interesting posters saying money

i have more money aged 50 than when I was younger , I can afford (and do ) stuff I wouldn’t have done in my 30s
-decent skincare regime
-botox
-highlights
-gym and classes
-having my greens and 4 a day
-eye brows shaped etc
-eye lash dying
-a lot of no make up make up

for various reasons im looking after myself alot better now im older

sleepysleepytired · 14/01/2024 22:44

@Indifferentchickenwings what makeup would you recommend?

velvetsunshine · 14/01/2024 23:09

PeanutsArentNuts · 13/01/2024 12:00

The best BMI for healthy aging in older adults (mid-60s on roughly) is around 27-28. So unless you want to die young, looking very slim, it is not a good strategy to keep a very low BMI beyond middleage.

Source? From metastudies and reviews I can only find the RANGE 23-29 being quoted as ideal, with some pros and cons at either end (slightly increased rates of dementia at lower BMIs, vs joint and heart disease at higher).

In any case, I don't think it's a goal to shoot for for people who are naturally slim. Some of the best places in the world for healthy longevity (Japan and other East Asian countries) have an elderly population with much lower average BMIs (<24).

Source - numerous books on ageing. But it is easy to find with a quick google. For example:

Researchers followed 200,000 people 65 and older for 12 years; they found that those with a BMI of 23 to 33 lived longer than their thinner peers. The lowest risk of death was found in those seniors with a BMI of 27.5; that’s actually overweight by WHO standards.

What Is a Healthy BMI for Seniors Ages 65+? | Seniors Guide

A wonderful meta-analysis came out in 2014 by Winters et al. looking at BMI and all-cause mortality in adults over age 65. Basically, they looked at BMI ranges and the risk of death by any cause. ...

This particular meta-analysis looked at 32 different studies and included 197,940 older adults (ages 65+) with an average follow-up of 12 years.

... At the bottom of the “u”, the sweet-spot with the lowest rates of mortality, was when an older adult had a BMI of 27-27.9. Researchers found that older adults were still good up to a BMI of 30.9… interestingly even at a BMI of 33 they did not see a significant increase in mortality.

BMI in the Elderly: What You Need to Know - The Geriatric Dietitian

velvetsunshine · 14/01/2024 23:12

Results: Thirty-two studies met the inclusion criteria; these studies included 197,940 individuals with an average follow-up of 12 y. With the use of a BMI (in kg/m2) of 23.0-23.9 as the reference, there was a 12% greater risk of mortality for a BMI range of 21.0-21.9 and a 19% greater risk for a range of 20.0-20.9 [etc]

Conclusions: For older populations, being overweight was not found to be associated with an increased risk of mortality; however, there was an increased risk for those at the lower end of the recommended BMI range for adults.
Because the risk of mortality increased in older people with a BMI <23.0, it would seem appropriate to monitor weight status in this group to address any modifiable causes of weight loss promptly with due consideration of individual comorbidities.

BMI and all-cause mortality in older adults: a meta-analysis - PubMed (nih.gov)

Indifferentchickenwings · 15/01/2024 09:42

sleepysleepytired

i look at the no make up make up routines and follow them , but using what I have

Estée Lauder tinted daywear
max factor powder
any good blusher and bronzer
touché eclat under the eyes
tarte primer
benefit eyebrow brush
and a very neutral eye shadow

im also a huge fan of fake tan , either dove (cheap ) or tan luxe (not cheap )

PeanutsArentNuts · 15/01/2024 10:54

@velvetsunshine
Oh, honey. Have you checked out the background or other publications by authors of that particular paper at all? "Jane Winter is an employee of Nestle Health Science."

This offers a nice summary of the popular statistical shenanigans confounding factors especially the perils of reverse causation. Similar conclusions reached here and here. Just from a cursory search.

velvetsunshine · 15/01/2024 13:10

PeanutsArentNuts · 15/01/2024 10:54

@velvetsunshine
Oh, honey. Have you checked out the background or other publications by authors of that particular paper at all? "Jane Winter is an employee of Nestle Health Science."

This offers a nice summary of the popular statistical shenanigans confounding factors especially the perils of reverse causation. Similar conclusions reached here and here. Just from a cursory search.

Edited

Patronising response.

No I haven't done background checks, as I don't have an agenda. I am puzzled how a meta-analysis can be biased. You asked me for a source, and I tried to be helpful. Guess none of the eminent geriatricians, or the WHO, who recommend a higher BMI for those over 65 know what they are talking about either.

PeanutsArentNuts · 15/01/2024 15:06

velvetsunshine · 15/01/2024 13:10

Patronising response.

No I haven't done background checks, as I don't have an agenda. I am puzzled how a meta-analysis can be biased. You asked me for a source, and I tried to be helpful. Guess none of the eminent geriatricians, or the WHO, who recommend a higher BMI for those over 65 know what they are talking about either.

By 'background check' you mean reading the author bio and potential conflict of interest sections of the study you cited? Because that's how I obtained the information that it was a Nestle Foods publication. If you get the time to read the links I provided, you will learn some of the ways something labelled a meta-study can, indeed, be biased.

Your post was helpful though, so belated thanks.