Beautiful women ageing

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I watched Saltburn last night and was struck by how Rosamund Pike’s looks have changed over the years. She looks fantastic and she has done it without trying to look artificially younger than she is- she definitely looks like a 45yo woman rather than a 45yo woman trying to look like a weird 30yo. An utterly beautiful woman fully growing into herself.

What’s the secret of this? (Other than being born beautiful?)

The best BMI for healthy aging in older adults (mid-60s on roughly) is around 27-28. So unless you want to die young, looking very slim, it is not a good strategy to keep a very low BMI beyond middleage.

Source? From metastudies and reviews I can only find the RANGE 23-29 being quoted as ideal, with some pros and cons at either end (slightly increased rates of dementia at lower BMIs, vs joint and heart disease at higher).

In any case, I don't think it's a goal to shoot for for people who are naturally slim. Some of the best places in the world for healthy longevity (Japan and other East Asian countries) have an elderly population with much lower average BMIs (<24).

I'd be near death if I had a BMI of 27. Been told to keep my BMI below 23.

@CharlotteRumpling why would be near death?

I am S Asian, so diabetes runs in the family, as do all the other genetic diseases common in Asian communities. Been told S Asians need to keep their BMI low because diabetes sets in even at a normal BMI.

Ah @CharlotteRumpling that makes sense!

Kylie, ageing well? Does it make a diff re: photographing well, features need almost to be exaggerated?

Read about ovarian implants/rejuvenation, will medical science ever be able to stop or delay clock?

I don't agree about staying thin. I think that ages peopleand makes them haggard.

Can I ask why you've posted a picture of yourself? And why are you pouting?

Except that people like Courtney Cox and Nicole Kidman can clearly afford the top people rather than the Turkish basement, and yet have made themselves utterly unrecognisable - and not in a good way - through cosmetic surgery.

I think in the case of Rosamund Pike its just that she is just very beautiful and so provided that she has looked after herself (which she clearly has) then she will still look very good at this age.

However 45 is still pretty young, she is probably not yet in menopause and its really in the next 10 year or so that she will really notice the ageing process start, will she still be all natural is 10 years? Who knows, my guess is probably not.

I agree that being thin does make older people look haggard. Being slim is different though, as you still have enough fat to round out wrinkles! I see a big difference between people in their 50’s who strenuously try to maintain a low weight and those who exercise moderately but still enjoy treats. The latter group look better imo.

Carrying any extra fat in your later years adds incredible stress to the body.
Separately it doesn't make you look younger. It makes you look matronly. Yes you may have a plump face but that doesn't equal looking young. Looking young means moving like a young person. Having flexibility. Being strong and agile. Carrying extra weight make people look old.

I am thin and I think it makes me look haggard and old. My friend is not fat but she isn't skinny either and I think it makes her looks years younger than me and she is actually older. She doesn't look matronly at all and she is very fit and healthy. Carrying some fat under your skin is youthful in my view but being very overweight isn't but you don't need to be overweight to have some nice facial fat.

I think also different people focus on different things, I know lots of women for who being very slim and toned is how they see themselves and others as looking youthful but often they don't they look their age or older due to their faces but they are slim and fit which is youthful in another way. I think some heavier women think they look young due to having fewer lines but I find heavy women often look kind of ageless but not automatically younger.

I try to gain some weight but it all goes on my arse and legs first which are my best features these days.

Did somebody on this thread recommend Nyad? I was crying at the end! I mean not hard to guess the ending! But, I was so happy for her and it is inspiring the strength and stamina that a 64 year body can achieve. So, good for her.

I remember years ago (less politically correct times!) an older man saying on television that a woman should try and"keep her waist" as she ages.
Obviously, he'd be cancelled these days for saying this but I do know what he meant... 😞You can usually gage a persons age by their figure / deportment from a distance....

The 1950s are calling - they want some of their ideas back!

Good posture, definitely! And try not to rock/waddle-walk as you get older!

I think Jo Whiley and Davinia McCall look great.

“Keep her waist” 🤣🤣

@EthelMcUnready Yes, he’d be crucified today. It’s similar with men in that having a big belly is aging.

OTOH, skinny older people don’t necessarily look younger. My BIL (55) is abit obsessive with his weight/exercise so he’s got a flat stomach, but is also v. lined/hollow-faced due to his lack of fat. It’s a balance. 🤷

They do, they don't look younger than their age but they look nice.

I think a bigger bust can make a woman look matronly as she gets older (I expect to get clobbered for this one).

Slim (NOT skinny) definitely more youthful than middle aged spread.

And as I've said in answer to PP, I've noticed as some women become middle aged, they start to waddle or "scluf" as they walk. You can see they are "a woman of a certain age" from a distance.....

Oh, yes, teeth! Try and look after them 🙄

You absolutely right, you do look brilliant.

However, I can't see any discussion about women hating themselves? Just about ageing in general and the benefit or otherwise of cosmetic enhancements, and whether staying thin is a good thing or not.

Is being thin really the secret to good ageing? In my experience, women who are very thin and have dieted most of their adult lives get a rather stringy look once they get older. I know the Mumsnet holy grail is being thin but sometimes some body fat actually makes you look a bit younger.

Then neither of them have a good sense of atheistic. Money and fame doesn’t automatically mean that you have this.

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And why are you pouting?

Somebody stole her harmonica?