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Trying to accept not looking like myself - please be kind

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relyingonthekindnessofstrangers · 12/03/2023 01:55

Hi there

I've name changed- been on Mumsnet right from the start. I found this wonderful website when I was in my early 30s with young babies and toddlers.

My children are all grown up now and have fled the nest. They are working in the UK, 7,000 miles away. I'm fine with this -they have their lives and are visiting again after bloody covid kept us apart for 2 years. I have a full time job which is demanding and keeps me busy and I am proud of what I do. I like to dress nicely and try to make the best of myself. I don't have a perfect figure but have found my style.

So what's the problem? It's my fucking face. When I wake up in the morning and look at how it's changing, it makes me feel like shit. It's just collapsing. I wear foundation, blush, mascara and lipstick - not a lot - but increasingly I just feel like I'm wasting my time as I don't really look much better afterwards. Plus I'm pissed off that my natural self is deteriorating so quickly.

I think I'm just struggling with the massive changes that I'm seeing in the mirror. Turkey neck, wrinkles, bags etc. Does anyone have any advice to help me accept this. I know I sound shallow but I'm not.

Thank you for listening and helping.

OP posts:
CheeseMeltCracker · 12/03/2023 02:17

I don’t think you sound shallow. Just human!

I had this sort of reaction after a prolonged period of illness and resulting weight gain, wrinkles and thinned hair. Felt like a stranger in my own body, didn’t recognise myself. I can sympathise.

I hope you don’t mind me saying, but you mentioned your empty nest, far away daughters and your busy job, but what else is in your life? Do you have a social life/hobbies/other family? Don’t have to answer this of course and I could be waaaaaaay off, but I found for me, a real turning point was starting to see people again, remember that I was still funny, creative, likeable, intelligent, able to enjoy my body and try new things, and see with my own eyes that other people didn’t recoil at the sight of me. Also it’s nice to not have lots of time to fill where I’m obsessing, but I get it!

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/03/2023 02:23

I've lost 3 close friends to cancer so it kind of puts wrinkles into perspective.

LunaTheCat · 12/03/2023 02:29

This is completely normal and is not shallow!
Why do we call ourselves shallow for being interested in clothes… blokes don’t say they are shallow when they are interested in cars and football!
I have gone through times when I look in the mirror and think “What the hell happened”. Take care of your body… have long baths, get a good haircut, do some exercise ( 58 year old me has discovered reformer Pilates and found it life changing.. so much stronger, posture is better), eat good food.
Look after your soul.. read, enjoy nature, make time relationships and friends.
Start people watching… go somewhere where people dress well, look at Pinterest, go shopping and just look, don’t buy ( unless you see something wonderful)

Monty27 · 12/03/2023 02:37

OP I empathise
Seeing a shop window reflection of myself became shocking. Let alone a mirror first thing in the morning 😳
It's really hard. Zero confidence left.
I've been working on my stature, I've used moisturiser daily on my face since I was about 14. Wasn't a sunbather ever.
So now I've decided I'm stuck with it. Still do regular haircuts and left my dyed hair to grow out during that hot summer lockdown. It turned white by itself. No more brunette, dental stuff ongoing.
There's no other choice than to embrace the new you. Keep wearing nice clothes and smile.
I'm probably a bit older than you.
You're still that lovely person beneath don't disappear it's your time now.

relyingonthekindnessofstrangers · 12/03/2023 02:50

Thank you for your kind messages. I spend a lot of time with my partner and have a small menagerie of dogs and cats. So I do get out a lot. I have some really good friends too who I socialise. I think doing some more exercise would definitely help.

I think I need to give my head a bit of a talking to.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor - my deepest condolences. I'm really sorry for your losses.

OP posts:
Dummycrusher · 12/03/2023 03:03

Botox is great, in moderation. I thought it would rob my face of expression, but actually it's just smoothed out lots of lines and I'm not a frozen mask. I'm trying out microneedling next week - it's supposed to liven up your skin a treat. Perhaps not 'acceptance' so much as simple tweaks to make yourself look a bit fresher.

NotWaterproof · 12/03/2023 03:35

I don't look at my physical reflection much, I quit makeup years ago, i was never a beauty and I am not the type to go for surgery.

I do look at my behaviour and thoughts though.

Monty27 · 12/03/2023 04:01

I had a fantastic working relationship with a senior woman at work. She was 15 years older than me. We became really good friends so I was round at her house one day and noticed a photo of her and her family as a much younger woman. It was quite striking as I always thought she was a great looking woman for her age anyway. So I exclaimed 'omg you were a real looker in your days'
The minute I said it I realised how shit it was going to be.
She took it very well as she could see the horror on my face. It was the worst compliment ever. Now that we're older we are still the same, if not more experienced to not let this stuff spoil your life. Always look clean and fresh I think. 🙂

Mothership4two · 12/03/2023 04:04

Our looks and how we are perceived/how we perceive ourselves is important. And placing importance on how we look/come across is a fundamental human trait (whether it's attractiveness, status, culture, health...).

A friend sent me a funny poem about an old woman that keeps leaping in front of her whenever she looks in a mirror but I can't find it but Rose Mula's 'A Very Weird Thing Has Happened' has similar sentiments:-

A strange old lady has moved into my house! I have no idea who she is, where she came from, or how she got in. I certainly did not invite her. All I know is that one day she wasn't there and the next day she was!

She is a very clever old lady. She manages to keep out of sight for the most part, but whenever I pass a mirror, I catch a glimpse of her. And whenever I look in the mirror directly, to check my appearance, there she is, hogging the whole thing and completely obliterating my gorgeous face and body! This is very rude. I have tried screaming at her to stop it but she just screams back, grimacing horribly. She is really quite frightening!

If she insists on hanging around, the least she could do is offer to pay a little rent. But, no! Every once in a while, I do find a dollar bill stuck into a coat pocket, or some loose change under the sofa cushion, but that is not nearly enough.

In fact, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I think she is stealing money from me! I go to the ATM and withdraw one hundred dollars, and a few days later it is all gone! I certainly don't spend money that fast, so I can only conclude that the old lady is pilfering from me. You would think she would use some of that money to buy some wrinkle cream! God knows she needs it!

And money isn't the only thing I think she is taking. Food seems to disappear at an alarming rate, too. Especially the good stuff like ice cream, cookies and candy. I just can't seem to keep that stuff in the house anymore. She must really have a sweet tooth, but she better watch it because she is really packing on the pounds! I think she realizes that and to make herself feel better, she is tampering with my scale to make me think that I am putting on weight too!

For an old lady, she really is quite childish though. She likes to play these really nasty games like going into my closet when I'm not home and altering my clothes so that they don't fit. Or, messing with my files and papers so that I can't find them. This is particularly annoying since I am an extremely neat and organized person. She fiddles with my VCR to make it not record what I have carefully and correctly programmed it to record.

She has found imaginative other ways to annoy me. She gets to my mail, newspapers and magazines before I do and somehow blurs the print so badly that I can't see it. And she has done something really sinister to the volume controls on my TV, radio and telephone so that all I hear are mumbles and whispers!

She has done other things like make my stairs steeper, my vacuum cleaner heavier, and all my knobs and faucets harder to turn. She even made my bed higher so that getting in to and out of it is a real challenge. Furthermore, she gets to my groceries before I get them put away and applies super glue to the lids, making it almost impossible for me to open them. Is this any way to repay my hospitality?

I don't even get any respite at night because more than once, her snoring has awakened me. It is very unattractive! And as if there weren't bad enough, she is no longer confining her tactics to the house. She has found a way to sneak into my car and follow me everywhere I go!

She has completely taken the fun out of shopping for clothes. When I try something on, she tries on the same exact outfit and stands in front of the dressing room mirror and monopolizes it. She looks totally ridiculous in the outfit and she keeps me from seeing how great it looks on me!

Just when I thought she couldn't get any meaner, she proved me wrong.

She came with me to get my driver's license picture taken and just as the camera shutter clicked, she jumped right in front of me! Who is going to believe that the picture of that old lady is ME?!

Abcdefgh1234 · 12/03/2023 07:03

Botox op! In moderation not in simon cowell kinda face 🤣

Dilbertian · 12/03/2023 08:24

I don't think it's shallow to be distressed when your physical appearance no longer matches your self-image. But I do think it's emotionally unhealthy to fixate on something you can never regain.

I developed an auto-immune condition that caused permanent changes to my face. I found it hugely distressing. But eventually I realised that this is the face I've got and I need to love myself as I am.

That experience has helped me cope with the changes brought by menopause. I don't care for them, but they are as much part of me as my beautiful, firm skin once was.

MultipleVeganPies · 12/03/2023 08:34

I know what you mean

i often think: bloody hell! When looking in the mirror first thing 😁 At 21 it was brush hair, brush teeth, mascara and done

i now spend 15 minutes, at 51, with a bit more make up and care

but I also speak kindly to
myself. After the initial: bloody hell! I tell myself I still look like me and that I’m doing well at life 😁

a bit like cheerleading myself 🙂 I put music on to put me in a good mood and spend those 15 minutes doing some damage control, then I don’t look in the mirror again

mdh2020 · 12/03/2023 09:12

Have you considered a change of hairstyle? go to a good hairdresser and ask for advice. Also, wear a necklace or scarf with your outfits so people aren’t just looking at your face. Make sure your clothes are flattering. It’s a pity that there is now a culture of having to look young but I remember my grandmother at the age of 82 saying ‘look at me, I’m trapped in this old body’.

Reinventinganna · 12/03/2023 09:32

@Mothership4two I love that

Enthrallingstoryofstillnessandlight · 12/03/2023 09:37

I'm the same if it helps, don't think it's shallow xx

otherwayup · 12/03/2023 09:51

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/03/2023 02:23

I've lost 3 close friends to cancer so it kind of puts wrinkles into perspective.

I hate this attitude.

Sadly most of us will lose loved ones to cancer. I certainly have but it doesn't mean that those of us who are privileged to grow older aren't allowed to feel unhappy about looking older or want to feel good about ourselves and ask for help in improving our looks as we age.

Fretfulagain · 12/03/2023 09:52

I am 56 and don’t think I look soooo bad but people keep offering me a seat on the tube. Twice in one journey 10 minute journey! Soul destroying.

I have to really resist the temptation to ask them why they did it - I am pretty confident I wouldn’t like the answer. But what can you do? I am in good health so fuck it, aging is better than the alternative and all those young people will be old one day, then they’ll know.

OldKingCole · 12/03/2023 10:02

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/03/2023 02:23

I've lost 3 close friends to cancer so it kind of puts wrinkles into perspective.

Completely unhelpful and minimising what the OP is going through

Beamur · 12/03/2023 10:09

Ageing is a mixed blessing.
You might find your usual make up products are no longer appropriate. Less is definitely more - foundation etc can be quite unflattering.
Maybe get your colours done? Skin and hair tone change so you might find that wearing the right colours gives you a lift.
Another aspect that can need a change is hairstyle. I saw a friend of mine recently who used to have lovely but rather dated looking hair, very long and always up. She's had it cut short and in quite an edgy style and she looks amazing..

MindfulMess · 12/03/2023 10:17

OldKingCole · 12/03/2023 10:02

Completely unhelpful and minimising what the OP is going through

Truly I’m very sorry for Pelligrino’s loss.

I have stage 3 cancer that is hopefully not going to come back. All I can do is cross my fingers.

I spend a lot of time stressing about how
much my face and body is changing right now. I do my best not to think about it but it really does upset me.

Yes of COURSE I’m bloody glad to be alive but it’s still weird to see myself turning into someone else every time I look in the mirror!

Katiekate19 · 12/03/2023 10:19

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/03/2023 02:23

I've lost 3 close friends to cancer so it kind of puts wrinkles into perspective.

I hate this kind of comment as well. As someone who went through cancer 18 months ago (and is how hopefully ok) I have started getting Botox, spending more on hair, skin care etc. Because life is short, you never know what will happen and I'd rather feel good about myself, especially after the physical and mental impact of cancer or any trauma.

OP, minimal Botox is great as others have said. Feeling good about how I look has done wonders for my mental health

MindfulMess · 12/03/2023 10:19

Beamur · 12/03/2023 10:09

Ageing is a mixed blessing.
You might find your usual make up products are no longer appropriate. Less is definitely more - foundation etc can be quite unflattering.
Maybe get your colours done? Skin and hair tone change so you might find that wearing the right colours gives you a lift.
Another aspect that can need a change is hairstyle. I saw a friend of mine recently who used to have lovely but rather dated looking hair, very long and always up. She's had it cut short and in quite an edgy style and she looks amazing..

Ah that’s exactly right Beamur. It’s a mixed blessing. A privilege denied to many, sure beats the alternative, but change is change and it’s not always easy.

Letsrunabath · 12/03/2023 10:19

I totally agree, watching my face change is very strange as I don’t feel much different from my 30s. I’m still slim but have to work on it, wear my make up but have to take longer applying it, and put more thought into clothes.
i am though very lucky to realise that today I am one day older than yesterday but 1 day younger than tomorrow. So make the most of yourself. And smile it makes everyone look better.
check out fabulous 50s the Australian lady she has some great tips on hair, dress, make up and exercise.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/03/2023 10:24

otherwayup · 12/03/2023 09:51

I hate this attitude.

Sadly most of us will lose loved ones to cancer. I certainly have but it doesn't mean that those of us who are privileged to grow older aren't allowed to feel unhappy about looking older or want to feel good about ourselves and ask for help in improving our looks as we age.

I'm sorry you hate my attitude but for me it does put things into perspective. We all age and I'm grateful I'm able to age when my friends didn't and left families behind. I'd rather wrinkles than the alternative.

Maireas · 12/03/2023 10:24

Unfortunately, society fetishes youth, ageing is a crime. So many ageist posts on this forum.
Anyway, you are the age you are - every wrinkle means that you've laughed, or frowned or otherwise experienced life. It's not going to make you ugly. Maybe ditch the make up, or change it. Change your hair, buy new clothes, perhaps think about trying different colours or styles as a pick me up?