Let's do this. Fashion V Style.

[RhadamanthNemes]

This comes up all the time time.

I actually think the two are immutable.

You can't have one without the other.

Stylish people have a very particular ownership of themselves. They know what they love. See Daphne Guiness, Grace Coddington, Tilda Swinton. These women are stylish as fuck.

BUT, they are also fashionable. They are all very interested in fashion, and keep themselves current, by keeping an eye on, and being very interested in 'Fashion'.

I honestly don't think it's possible to be stylish without being fashoinable.

Fashionable doesn't mean fashion victim, it simply means, being interested in fashion and adapting current looks that fit in with one's personal style.

I think to be truly fashionable, you have to sometimes take risks (and occasionally get it wrong), to be stylish to me the focus is more on getting it right and less risk tsking

like a Venn diagram

to me: fashionable and 90% stylish is Wyeen Maxima if the Netherlands

Princess Kate is stylish but only about 30% fashionable

Kate Moss is not stylish to me, she’s better, she’s cool. Cool and fashionable

stylish to me as a term is not 100% positive, in the same way that elegant has a negative edge: it overlaps a bit with staid, imo

Highly agree with this. I feel that you can often distinguish those who are styled, versus those who are stylish.

I'm always surprised when I see off duty models, especially the supermodels back in the day, and they were never as stylish as I'd expected them to be.

Which brings me into the subject are celebs/ people in the public eye naturally stylish or are they only stylish due to have excellent stylists?

For example I really like Sophie Coppola's style - very understated/gamine some would say boring even but she knows who suits her and rarely deviates from this look.

However she hasn't always dressed like this she was more experimental with colour and style of clothing when she was younger so I wonder did she find her own style as she got older or did she acquire a great stylist?

her style

And as for me I would prefer to be stylish rather than fashionable but Ive momentarily lost my way.

I think I need one statement piece in an outfit. That means I have to buy a lot of boring basics with tiny interesting details for the rest of my outfit.

I’m going to through another word into pot to join fashionable and stylish and that’s ‘trendy’. Is the white socks and black leggings a trend which has caught on with younger people copying each other rather than fashion which originates from the catwalk? I can’t think of many other looks I would put in this category though - perhaps some of the makeup trends like heavy eyebrows would be one.

Heavy eyebrows came from the catwalk/fashion though, did it not? I remember Cara Delavigne shooting to fashion fame mostly in the strength of her eye brows 😁 and that was years and years ago

I really should have addressed the ops opening question instead of wandering off down some side street of my own 😞. I don’t think you can separate fashion from style. I think stylish people will be referencing current proportions or colour or makeup even though they are not obvious about it. My case in point is period costume in film which always references the time in which it was made even when it’s trying hard not to.

What about another term - a costume / dressing up party? Some people who think they are stylish are, to me, doing a dressing up trick, like going to a costume party. I think some ideas expressed on this thread are like this. Wearing everything as if it is the 1950s - yes, there is an art of costume, it's completely not about contemporary fashion, but a fashion of the time or made up time/fashion. But it is not necessarily stylish even if it is consistent and striking. I love seeing people dressed like this, but for me it requires too much discipline and dedication to a specific costume and never any deviation

Thanks @MurderAtTheBeautyPageant I'll take a look. It sounds interesting.

So, what do you do if you've always been (somewhat) fashionable, but the fashions suddenly don't agree with you? I'm definitely having a hard time navigating between what actually looks good on me vs what's currently fashionable, because they are not the same thing at the moment!

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