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Fairfax and Favor

119 replies

Bemyclementine · 14/02/2023 16:12

Anyone love this brand? Or not? I love some of the boots and bags, they are £££ though. I dislike their "customer of the month" competition, as you have to already have bought something to be able to enter 🤣

Also, they seem to be turning into a bit of a "uniform" for impractical country style.

Disclaimer- I'm neither stylish nor blessed with the money to buy lots from them. Neither do I fit the tweed skirt/white jeans, slim young thing look (annoyingly)

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RhadamanthNemes · 15/02/2023 10:00

It's just slightly more expensive Joules isn't it?

TangledWebOfDeception · 15/02/2023 10:05

I think it's better quality. But it's very 'playing dress up' to my mind.

NeverThatSerious · 15/02/2023 10:10

MyrtIe · 15/02/2023 08:58

It all looks like it's arrived in a time machine from 2007.

🤣
I wouldn’t say it’s far off.. I feel like the Reginas and explorers have been overdone since I used to spend every weekend at yfc ‘dos… back in 2012/2013 🤪
I feel like some of the stuff is nice but some is just fucking hideous, the sandals and that sort of thing are just awful, and clearly brought out in various (ugly) colour ways just so people who are obsessed with their ‘blue box delivery’ will keep buying.

MsAdoraBelleDearheartVonLipwig · 15/02/2023 22:35

@TangledWebOfDeception yes that’s exactly it, it seems to be an obsession for some of them. And then you see so many for sale posts of barely worn stuff and you think yep, buyers regret. Or ‘influencers’ flogging on freebies that they don’t even like. I’ve heard of that before.

TizerorFizz · 15/02/2023 23:09

Holland Cooper is a bit tribal
too. It saves having to think about what you wear.

YouOKHun · 15/02/2023 23:12

Howdya · 15/02/2023 09:01

It isn't poor quality at all.

@Howdya My experience of their footwear is that it really isn’t very good at all considering the price. I have had two pairs of boots from them which fell apart really quickly. The first pair after a year of occasional light wear, I thought I was just unlucky. I then bought some Regina heeled boots. The zips were inadequate and started to pull apart within a few months of purchase and they weren’t particularly tight fitting. I’d only worn them a handful of times.

When I contacted F&F they just wouldn’t engage at all. I was polite but the person on the end of the phone was very rude to me. Perhaps I wasn’t the sort of customer they want? I ended up taking the boots to a cobbler to get the zips replaced at great expense and he commented on the poor quality of the construction and the zips.

I gather that they did a bit of an upgrade of the Regina heeled boots a while back and may have addressed some of the issues. I can’t comment on the other things they sell.

Ijustdunnoanymore · 23/02/2023 13:24

Bemyclementine · 14/02/2023 16:12

Anyone love this brand? Or not? I love some of the boots and bags, they are £££ though. I dislike their "customer of the month" competition, as you have to already have bought something to be able to enter 🤣

Also, they seem to be turning into a bit of a "uniform" for impractical country style.

Disclaimer- I'm neither stylish nor blessed with the money to buy lots from them. Neither do I fit the tweed skirt/white jeans, slim young thing look (annoyingly)

I agree, there seems to be a bit of a cult thing going on with the facebook page. I got kindda sucked in and bought more than i wanted tbh. nice boots BUT hurt like hell lol

Ijustdunnoanymore · 23/02/2023 13:26

Justonedayatatime11 · 14/02/2023 18:12

I was a total addict. Thousands and thousands of pounds worth of blue boxes.
Then realised it was a bit cult like and their prices are completely unreasonable for the quality of their items.
The club page is full of people just posting 'great!' on everyone's photos to be in with a chance of winning a voucher Hmm. And there's definitely a certain type of 'uniform' that they all seem to wear!
Wish I'd never discovered the damn brand!

Agree. :(

Justonedayatatime11 · 23/02/2023 13:30

On the upside, this thread has encouraged me to put my entire collection up for sale

Bemyclementine · 23/02/2023 20:26

@Justonedayatatime11 😳 where??

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Bemyclementine · 23/02/2023 20:26

And are you a size 6 🤣

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Justonedayatatime11 · 23/02/2023 20:36

@Bemyclementine a 5 sadly! I have a few bags, belts, purses and tassels to sell too

Thekormachameleon · 23/02/2023 20:41

@JuJustonedayatatime11 do you have any bags to sell in pink ?

Itsabeautifuldaytosavelives123 · 23/02/2023 21:23

I agree, a strange cult following on FB, where a certain car has to be in photos. I do have 2 pairs of shoes and 2 pairs of boots from them, no big shakes though. I prefer my DMs, and they cost less. The Regina is notoriously difficult to size accurately. I also have a gilet from them. I do think the resale value has hugely dropped, certainly tassels used to sell for £££, I don't think that effect is there anymore.

Bemyclementine · 23/02/2023 21:41

@Itsabeautifuldaytosavelives123 I saw someone post recently with a (very expensive) car in the background, not sure mine would have the same effect 🤣

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Itsabeautifuldaytosavelives123 · 23/02/2023 21:48

Bemyclementine · 23/02/2023 21:41

@Itsabeautifuldaytosavelives123 I saw someone post recently with a (very expensive) car in the background, not sure mine would have the same effect 🤣

Pretty sure mine wouldn't be approved as a post in the group if I took a photo with it 😂

bigbluebus · 23/02/2023 22:03

One of their brochures dropped on my doormat yesterday. We laughed at how their marketing had definitely hit the wrong person. I would never spend that sort of money on clothing or accessories and most of it wasn't my style anyway. I don't need outfits for race day or polo matches as I wouldn't go to them.

RestyBFace · 24/02/2023 05:18

Their promo model absolutely encourages a cult-like following on FB. If you post a photo of yourself in their stuff, you might win a £250 voucher. If you comment on lots of other people’s photos, you get ranked in their “most helpful” categories (or others) and might get a voucher. If you post a picture of your pet, you might get (you guessed it) a voucher. So you have all these people submitting content and engaging with their group, trying to get free stuff each month. Negativity is automatically reduced by this model, and anyone writing “great” below your picture is probably more worried about their ranking than what you’re feeling.

What the people engaging with this may not realise is that they ARE the product. More likes and comments means this stuff stays in your feed, encouraging you to buy more. Shares and tags grow the following, drawing more in. You’re giving your photos (if they’re any good) to F&F to use in marketing for free (a pro photographer and model for the day would cost £1000s).

You get people trying to exploit the group for followers to their Insta so they can become influencers, and fair play to them, but in reality they often fail to get the followers they need to be successful. Their efforts only grow the F&F cult. You also get people who network within the group and grow an F&F following, and hence get more likes, comments, and guarantee a voucher for themselves each month. These are in effect, unofficial (and underpaid) marketing employees of F&F.

The most bonkers posts are the ones where people write about the most horrendous things in their life and somehow tenuously link it to F&F. E.g. “My dad just died but look at my lovely shoes.” These get loads of interaction.

The worst thing IMO is the way F&F run design competitions each year (“design a product and we’ll put it into production”). I’m a designer and this model really winds me up. It means they get hours’ and hours’ worth of commissions and research done for free. A lot of companies do it now to save money on actually employing someone full-time. The prize is laughable, and it all adds to this situation where the work of designers is undervalued. Some of the results become “design by committee” rather than vision-led however, as they’re voted for by the FB group. The Heeled Brancaster is a good example of this.

True, no one is forced to enter, but when you’re broke and looking at all these aspirational images, it’s very easy to get sucked in to giving away more of your time for free on the false hope that it might land you some cash.

The products themselves aren’t all bad. I think some of their boots are actually quite nice, although I’d never buy them at their RRP. The depreciation on footwear is horrendous, so if you care about your cash, it is worth considering that. For bags, IMO Aspinal and Russell & Bromley make superior ones at that price point.

F&F are trying out tweed now. I personally think Dubarry does way better “pretend countrygirl” tweed with lovely silk lining, but there are probably others I don’t know about that are also good.

RestyBFace · 24/02/2023 05:48

One more thing about the design competitions - even if you don’t win, F&F can still use your idea and pay you nothing. Yay.

User15387659 · 24/02/2023 06:23

I quite like the driving shoes, I have tried many brands and haven't found the perfect one yet, fortunately for my purse I'm not really interested in the other stuff they sell

Palm7rees · 24/02/2023 07:54

F&F to me is Tesco Florence and Fred.

Never looked at Fairfax & F til today! Definitely has a young farmers club vibe and pricey. Watched a video with a man from the brand putting freezer bags on ladies feet before attempting to zip them up! Never seen that before !

Bemyclementine · 24/02/2023 08:07

I've seen the new range and some of it is , well , moving away from their usual look. The blush boots look cheap - imo!

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EllaPaella · 24/02/2023 08:09

To me it's just what Joules were maybe 10 years ago. A very contrived 'horsey' countryside look which is aimed at people who aspire to look 'posh'. Joules had a similar fan club following a few years ago and everyone in the Cotswold town my parents live in seemed to wear the brand like a uniform, bit like Hunter wellies.
I had never heard of the brand other than on here.

Justonedayatatime11 · 24/02/2023 09:47

@RestyBFace did/do you work for them?

Nosecan · 24/02/2023 10:16

RestyBFace · 24/02/2023 05:18

Their promo model absolutely encourages a cult-like following on FB. If you post a photo of yourself in their stuff, you might win a £250 voucher. If you comment on lots of other people’s photos, you get ranked in their “most helpful” categories (or others) and might get a voucher. If you post a picture of your pet, you might get (you guessed it) a voucher. So you have all these people submitting content and engaging with their group, trying to get free stuff each month. Negativity is automatically reduced by this model, and anyone writing “great” below your picture is probably more worried about their ranking than what you’re feeling.

What the people engaging with this may not realise is that they ARE the product. More likes and comments means this stuff stays in your feed, encouraging you to buy more. Shares and tags grow the following, drawing more in. You’re giving your photos (if they’re any good) to F&F to use in marketing for free (a pro photographer and model for the day would cost £1000s).

You get people trying to exploit the group for followers to their Insta so they can become influencers, and fair play to them, but in reality they often fail to get the followers they need to be successful. Their efforts only grow the F&F cult. You also get people who network within the group and grow an F&F following, and hence get more likes, comments, and guarantee a voucher for themselves each month. These are in effect, unofficial (and underpaid) marketing employees of F&F.

The most bonkers posts are the ones where people write about the most horrendous things in their life and somehow tenuously link it to F&F. E.g. “My dad just died but look at my lovely shoes.” These get loads of interaction.

The worst thing IMO is the way F&F run design competitions each year (“design a product and we’ll put it into production”). I’m a designer and this model really winds me up. It means they get hours’ and hours’ worth of commissions and research done for free. A lot of companies do it now to save money on actually employing someone full-time. The prize is laughable, and it all adds to this situation where the work of designers is undervalued. Some of the results become “design by committee” rather than vision-led however, as they’re voted for by the FB group. The Heeled Brancaster is a good example of this.

True, no one is forced to enter, but when you’re broke and looking at all these aspirational images, it’s very easy to get sucked in to giving away more of your time for free on the false hope that it might land you some cash.

The products themselves aren’t all bad. I think some of their boots are actually quite nice, although I’d never buy them at their RRP. The depreciation on footwear is horrendous, so if you care about your cash, it is worth considering that. For bags, IMO Aspinal and Russell & Bromley make superior ones at that price point.

F&F are trying out tweed now. I personally think Dubarry does way better “pretend countrygirl” tweed with lovely silk lining, but there are probably others I don’t know about that are also good.

This is a really interesting post!

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