WWW's six week 10year younger boot camp, week 3, all game old (and young) birds welcome

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Game old birds is a reference to India Knight (who is a mere slip of a girl at age 41 or something) being referred to as a game old bird on this thread

Anyway, this is week 3 of the first WWW 10year younger boot camp of 2008. Hello everyone.

Anyone can join, we promise it works and you will feel and look better - and maybe younger - if you follow these rules.

This is about being healthy and feeling and looking better as a result. It's not a diet (although weight loss does seem to occur fairly frequently)

THE RULES ARE:

• Sunscreen at all times, even though it's winter
• No or little booze in the week. Wine at the weekend is allowed if you want it
• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can. Many of us have an Omron pedometer
• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day
• Apply body cream as often as possible
• Use hand cream/foot cream too, we recommend Flexitol, which is fantastic stuff
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos
• Eat healthily
• Be happy

The idea is that at the end of six weeks we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Veils drawn over the weekends indiscretions, onwards!

DS1 is ok btw. Has started to flex his fingers more (dr told him to move it as much as he could).

If you laughed at him playing table tennis, you'll laugh at this...he's asked when he can start basketball again, rofl. (I'm not even mentioning the karate )

Hello all,

L&S and Duchess - I admire your commitment to healthy eating when pregnant. I was rubbish in that regard - my lowest point was the day I has a mashed potato pie and chips. (this was in a retail depot in Scotland where the canteen was crap limited.

WWW - hope you enjoyed your wine and that it won't be too hard to get up in the morning. From your descriptions I'm starting to see why there are issues with leaving your team to work by themselves (will you be using the phrase 'fking cts and fkwits' on their appraisals??)

Pollydolly - hope you're feeling better.

ureb - IKWYM about suicide funerals, so difficult to know what to say when it was their choice. Perhaps her faith meant that she believed she'd be better off in the afterlife? I just don't know how anyone could be so desperate to be able to leave a child but I suppose I should be thankful that I've never been in such a dark place. And no apologies for being off-topic (i do it all the time!) don't forget this is the MN micro-community! Hope your Dh is ok and your ds recovers quickly - you're really having a time of it at the moment!

Pru - hope you're feeling mentally fighting fit and glad that you've moved on from thoughts of harming yourself.
With regards to impending MIL I had thought about a weekend escape however is does seem a little harsh - "oh yes, do come and visit at great expense and time and jet-lag when you're nervous about the journey. Oh and while you're here, here's ds (who can't remember you and will understandably play up)and we're buggering off somewhere nice that you'd probably like to visit as well." We will however have a lot of nights out. I haven't been out since last July so it's all good!

For some reason I'm in an exceptionally good mood today. Ds is at nursery and I'm getting on with my work and it feels so good to be using my brain for something other than storing play-doh recipies. I can call myself a student again. Right, enough displacement activity I have work to do! [bama resolutely turns off MN]

Tuesday:

Sunscreen tick
No booze tick
Walking Walked to school once out of three, with dogs, and via fields on the way back. Also did 20 minutes cardio and 100 sit ups
Water At least 2 litres. 3 coffees and one peppermint tea
Hand cream tick
Foot cream tick
Bedtime Oops. Not in bed until 12:30, and didn't get to sleep until 1:30 at earliest.
Eat healthily Granola and skimmed milk, sushi (not much as I didn't eat lunch until after school, and dd decided she would help me eat it, and proceeded to demolish over half. Grapes, pork chop with roasted sweet potato & green beans.

Be happy Yes. I once again have a huge tank full of poo in my back garden because the pump that takes our drains to the mains has failed again. But at least this time (unlike last year) the alarm warned me before the drain cover started overflowing. And the nice tanker man is coming out today to clear it all (Can you imagine a worse job than sucking out other peoples shit from large holes?) And my therapist was lovely, and made me realise that it's normal to have to use strategies to keep yourself happy, and if I'm able to dig myself out of a rough I should be congratulating myself on that rather than criticising myself for having got into it in the first place.

Batters - any chnage in skincare takes time for your skin to adjust, it will look lovely gain soon. I'm nearly out of my current cleanser so will be joining you and marina on the Eve Lom soon, so please remind me of my comforting words when I'm moaning about zits in a couple of weeks!

Morning all
Glad the funeral went ok ureb - ours is tomorrow, but your posts on this thread remind me there is an important difference between mourning someone who died too young and by her own hand, and someone who lived to a very good age and had a comfortable life on the whole
Glad ds' finger is improving - he sounds unstoppable
Can't recommend Eve Lom highly enough prufrock, hope you like it too and sorry to hear you had such a difficult week last week - things must be looking up if you can be sanguine about a pool of poo in the garden
at night out at pics batters, our nearest cinema is now a teenager infested dirty multiplex alas, possibly sponsored by Lovefilm to keep people watching DVDs at home
Also good to hear happiness is plentiful on here this morning
Yesterday:
Sunscreen tick
Flexitol tick
Healthy breakfast and lunch tick
Walking but still not enough wobbly tick
Water tick

Must go

Morning all Am at work again today and struggling to concentrate but I think it?s good for me to have other stuff to focus on. This is doing wonders for my wine habit ? haven?t had a drink since Saturday and have no desire to either as I worry that once I start I may not be able to stop. A clear head is vital I think. Have eaten some breakfast and had a baked potato last night so you can all stop telling me to eat!

Relate was useful yesterday and we have both said we want to continue some sort of therapy together ? the counsellor has prioritised us on the waiting list (which is both good and bad) but we are exploring other options too as even three weeks (which is most likely) seems like too long.

Afterwards we went and talked some more and it was the most useful session yet really ? I think he?s beginning to understand how I feel and how the last year?s events have affected me and therefore the way I have been in our relationship.

I am finding it so hard to be in the house with him tho ? I have to keep checking myself not to touch him and I know he is the same. We had a strange night last night where we were almost normal with each other, talking about other things and yet there is this huge gulf and we cannot be as we used to be.

I have a bag of satsumas on my desk and plan to eat fruit and soup today. I have to keep myself well, I know that. Posting is helping, it really is, but maybe I shouldstart another thread.

Pru - sorry to hear you've been low, but great you are on the up. Ureb glad the funeral was ok.

Morning all,

Profrock, that's v funny what you say about toddlers and keys - mainly because I can remember doing exactly that when I was three or so myself - me on inside of door in hysterical tears, mother on outside trying to calm me down/direct me to keys so I could reverse-post them through the letter box

bamamama, ashamed to admit that my healthy eating has largely been swept away, in the last two days, by a tsunami of chocolate. A bar of Divine chocolate and four oreos yesterday afternoon; and delicious leek and courgette souffle for dinner was followed by a bar of Dairy Milk. Only the thought of having to admit to it on here dissuaded me from polishing off the last two oreos in the six-pack this morning. Stuck to toastx2, banana and grapes instead (famished though, and it's only 11am - will be visiting the snack trolley when it makes its rounds ... )

Couldn't face awards thing last night, so snuck home and watched Mistresses instead. A far, far better thing.

unknownrebel, glad the funeral was as good as it could be, and marina, good luck with yours today.

Foo, it sounds like Relate, and chat afterwards, were both very positive. Do keep posting about it on here, even if you start another thread. I guess it will be a long road for both of you whatever happens, and I think you're right keeping well is hugely important, and hopefully this thread can help with that.

Oh batters, I loved No Country for Old Men. Have you seen Fargo too? Really liked the way they swapped the barren expanse of snow in that for the barren expanse of desert in this. Top stuff.

Ahem. Profrock?! Prufrock, obviously ...

Prufrock, I am sorry you are feeling so low

Unknown, & Marina thinking of you too.

Foo, I hope you are looking after yourself. I am sorry it is all so tough. Relate does sound positive. be prepared for small steps.

I am taking small steps at the moment. January is the anniversary of both my parents deaths, work is tough and... and... and I'd quite like to be elsewhere just now.

BUT

Sunscreen at all times, even though it's winter BAD

• No or little booze in the week. Wine at the weekend is allowed if you want it GOOD
• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can. MIDDLING
• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day MIDDLING
• Apply body cream as often as possible GOOD
• Use hand cream/foot cream too, GOOD
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm GOOD
• Eat healthily GOOD
• Be happy MIDDLING

Prufrock, I found your post both sad and moving. Glad things are a bit better for you.

I don't do (((hugs))) but I would like to offer a hearty pat on the shoulder to Pru, Winnie, Marina, Foo and everyone else who is having a tough time at the moment. If I knew you in RL I would clasp you to my ample bosom and try to be a comforting presence but online a listening ear is the best I can offer. I have had some dark times (not for a long while though) but my father has battled with depression all his life so I know a little of the struggle. Take care of yourselves and thinking of you.

I am less stressed today and have had lots of water, walking, cream and good food. Bad is the 4 chocolate biscuits I had once in (and I am not even pg L and S!) and the assault on the wine rack I am planning as I write. Only 1 glass though. I'll check in later so see how you are all doing.

Pru - did the poo man come today? We have a completely illegal cesspit in a disused well which can only be accessed through a cow field. If you don't get it emptied before the field gets too muddy for the tanker to drive across, it can spill into neighbouring paddock.

Hope everyone has had a better day.

My sciatica has been v. bad so I've been resting as much as I can. I've eaten bagel & cream cheese, orange juice, 1/2 avocado, tomato, cottage cheese & breadsticks, several raw carrots, three bean chilli & pitta bread and an orange. A very large handful of pistachios. 2 coffees and over 1.5l water.

Went to bed at 11ish, DH gave me a back massage and I actually slept well until 6.30am. Face cream etc done. I have also been applying a light tanning lotion to my face/neck over the past few days and I look much better for it. But def. not orange like Judith Chalmers.

And our snowdrops and primroses are out so it must be nearly spring.

Just a quick in and out tonight... another evening out until nine-ish.

Thanks to everyone once again for your kind words. Prufrock, I really appreciate you posting what you did last night, it meant a lot, and helped.

• Sunscreen yy
• No booze - not even any last night, and i won a bottle of plonk too!
• Exercise bike, haven't a clue how long for, and kept stopping and starting.
• Lots of water yy
• Apply body cream no
• Use hand cream/foot cream too no
• Go to bed early, ha.!
• Eat healthily - hmmm, gone completely off track again. I'm trying...
• Be happy. Today's been ok. Got into a bit of a strop earlier in the week about having to have an interview to help out at cubs....I've only been helping out 2-3 years (Already CRB checked and basically they've changed the rules for parent-helpers, all leaders have to undergo the interview and training). Anyway, interview was tonight, and everyone was lovely blah blah blah. I do understand the need, it's just after all this time, if I was crap the group leader would have got rid of me by now (and he would!).

Very trivial matter, lol.

www - so are this lot better or worse than tosser mctoss?

marina - hope tomorrow is Ok. I do think there is something strangely "nice" (though that is completely the wrong word), about a funeral that can be a remeberance of a life well lived and a person well loved.

L&S - that's nothing, someone once called me profuck

Yes duch, poo man did come. Pump was clogged with babywipes, so have had serious words with dd and ds about not flushing them. My mum used to have really bad sciatica (caused by weight in her case) and she found that massage - a very focused one - seriously helped.

Sunscreen tick
No booze tick
Walking Walked to school once out of three, and did 45 minutes fast with dogs. Then psycho boxing/core session with PT tonight.
Water At least 2 litres. 2 coffees and one peppermint tea
Hand cream will do
Foot cream will do
Body cream will do
Bedtime In bed now, watching so you think you can dance!
Eat healthily Granola and skimmed milk, rye bread, cottage cheese and gherkins, olives, roast monkfish and peppers on lentils (whcih was gorgeous) grapes.
Be happy. Very. It's quite amazing what fresh air and exercise can do for ones mood. I dug over 2 of my veg beds and mulched with compost that I made myself, which felt incredibly satisfying.

ureb - no problem. Now I'm better (mainly) I can't seem to stop talking about how terrible I felt, which is funny, as when I was ill, I couldn't tell anyone. I think I'm just in the middle of the epiphany of the newly therapised - realising that it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Marina, I hope the funeral is ok today, and that you and your family are all ok. Lots of love to you all. xxx

marina, thinking of you today {{{}}}
Prufrock, I am glad you are feeling a little better. You have reminded me that I need to get out in the garden and it won't just be hard work, it will be theraputic
Duchess, my snowdrops and primroses are coming out too and it is lovely. We have sunshine today too Hurrah!

pollydolly, thank you

Yesterday was -crap- not great but today is MUCH BETTER

Onwards and upwards everyone

Have just hd some v healthy soup for lunch and also managed porridge for breakfast so will give myself a healthy tick. Lots of herbal tea, not much water. No wine, tick for walking and a tick for early bedtime although that was partly because I couldn't stand the sight f do a momnet longer and I didn't actually get to sleep very quickly.

On the happiness front am feeling bad again today - we had the kind of talk last night that didn't really get us anywhere and am generally feeling pessimistic - although H has agreed to counselling starting Monday I cannot bear the thought of the weekend.

Marina I hope the funeral was a joyful celebration of your uncle and that it gave you chance to say goodbye properly.

www- completely off topic - did you replace your dishwasher, what did you get and are you happy with it? Mine has been erratic for weeks and has finally expired.

Foo - hang in there. Counselling from Monday is a good step. And well done for eating well today. Saves me having a nag.

Marina - Hope the funeral was OK, did you take your DCs?

ureb - you are tooooo busy!

winnie - sunshine here too, and we have it forecast for the weekend. So I may survey the weeds on the veg garden.

Hello everyone.

I know Duchess. I'm cutting stuff back gradually though (or trying to , lol.

Glad you're feeling a bit better.
Hope the funeral went ok Marina.

Thoughts are with you Foo.

Snowdrops and primroses eh? lovely.

• Sunscreen yy
• No booze
• Exercise bike, but not for long
• Lots of weak tea yy
• Apply body cream no
• Use hand cream/foot cream too no
• Go to bed early - midnightish.
• Eat healthily - marginally better but still eating too much
• Be happy - yes. Been to see my lovely aunt tonight.

Sorry I've been crap about being on this thread. Have had a bad couple of weeks (nothing new, just to quote www from years ago, working for Tosser McTosser).

Marina I hope today went well for you and your family, adn that everyone else is ok.

I've not been too bad bootcamp wise, quite good on food/wine/walking/water etc, so not too disastrous.

My exciting thing for this evening (and I'm going to have a little brag here if you don't mind) - I took ds1 and dd swimming this evening - ds1 cracked swimming in the summer (he's 6), after a HUGE water phobia, so am very proud of him - swimming under water now, has got his 20m. But dd who is 4 suddenly said 'I'm swimming', ds1 looked and said 'Whoa, she actually is', and when I looked she was doing an AMAZING front crawl! Which gave her SO much confidence (we had to stop her swimming lessons as she was losing confidence in them, and getting worse not better) that she started jumping under the water, and swim several widths (with one touch of feet as she ran out of breath). But she was honestly doing front crawl - she has the physique of a swimmer - strong shoulders - and she looked SO good in the water. !

HELLO everyone!

Thank you, this thread has made me laugh out loud and as I am sitting in my ex husbands flat in London with a TERRIBLE hangover, I needed it. I have called in sick, which I know is vair terrible but actually, I had a SHIT day at work yesterday and so persuaded a dodgy (mnetter) woman to come and drink Champagne at St Pancras with me and we ordered food which was MINUTE, it was like dolly party food and was not enough to soak up the booze. And I feel a liberating freedom for not going in this morning. I won;t get paid but I don't care.

ha ha at "will you be using the phrase cts and fkwits in their appraisals" ha ha ha. Well, someone needs to tell them... I'm joking but honestly, terrible group of people. I have an aggressive manager reporting to me who has bullied her teams for YEARS but NOBODY will go on record and make a complaint so there's nothing I can do about it and she's careful enough not to do it in my eyesight. I have another load of underlings who think they're entitled to promotions/payrises due to longevity of service (one said "I know I only got 20% in the test but maths isn't my strong point - this is a fuking FINANCE department you stupid fucking cow! I tactfully said "have you considered other career options?) anyway, they are a major PITA and have been getting away with it for years hence they hate my guts for being the one to stand up to them.

Anyway, bootcamp shocking. I have had wine every night this week plus buckets of Champagne last night.

But hey, it's Friday, I'm skiiving, it's a luvverly day in London so I am going out soon for a Mcdonalds sausage and egg mcmuffin (great for hangovers but I know, ) and then home and will collect ds from school, which will be an unexpected surprise for him,

sorry have not responded to everyone but Foo, fingers crossed on Relate, Marina, hope the funeral was as good as these things can be, ureb, how sad re the funeral you went to

and gosh, 2 cesspits on one thread! Well, 3 if you include the steaming pile of poo that is my team

Happy Friday everyone!

Oh and re dishwashers, I got a Miele and it is FANTASTIC, must go and post on other thread to thank everyone who recommended it. It was a £588 one with a top tray for cutlery, well worth it.

lol at 'maths isn't my strong point' www. Sorry work is so bad!

Can you not persuade someone to make a complaint about the bullying manager? We have the opposite problem - we are the bullied, and have made SO many complaints, but are constantly told 'it is their right to do so'.