WWW's six week 10year younger boot camp, week 3, all game old (and young) birds welcome

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Game old birds is a reference to India Knight (who is a mere slip of a girl at age 41 or something) being referred to as a game old bird on this thread

Anyway, this is week 3 of the first WWW 10year younger boot camp of 2008. Hello everyone.

Anyone can join, we promise it works and you will feel and look better - and maybe younger - if you follow these rules.

This is about being healthy and feeling and looking better as a result. It's not a diet (although weight loss does seem to occur fairly frequently)

THE RULES ARE:

• Sunscreen at all times, even though it's winter
• No or little booze in the week. Wine at the weekend is allowed if you want it
• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can. Many of us have an Omron pedometer
• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day
• Apply body cream as often as possible
• Use hand cream/foot cream too, we recommend Flexitol, which is fantastic stuff
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos
• Eat healthily
• Be happy

The idea is that at the end of six weeks we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Veils drawn over the weekends indiscretions, onwards!

Foo, I absolutely recognise that feeling of not being able to get anything down. See if you can manage some fruit juice if nothing else, just so you have something inside you. So, so sorry you're having such a crappy time. XXXXX

oh and Duchess - I have to confess that there were some brimming eyes, following the key-loss. It was a very close call. FAMISHED so off to make dinner - pasta and broccoli and anchovies. mmmm.

Foo, you're in shock I should think. Come here and talk to us if it helps. Winnie is indeed an example, I remember her posting about realising that when times were bad was when she needed to look after herself the most. X to you.

Today
banana in car
2 pieces white bread toast, 7g butter x 2, Marmite
houmous salad sandwich, 356 cals
2 apples
grapes, blueberries
cod in proscuitto with green beans, lemon garlic
and I've just had 1 small glass of wine and will have another as about to watch Prison Break.
but will have an early night.

Foofoo, so sorry to read your other thread. Hope you have RL support, although I know offloading on here can be a great help. I reiterate what everyone else says, you do need to try to look after yourself.

Luckylady, I eat when I'm bored, when I'm stressed, when the boys eat, when DH eats, yada yada - or I have done in the past. I'm improving with the eating when stressed mostly, boredom still gets me, and I like unhealthy treats, even though I know I'm not hungry. Go for a bath/do some exercise if you can. Won't necessarily put you off the food, but it might help.

Pollydolly, hope you're feeling better.

Have you found your keys L&S? You should get your locks changed if you haven't.

Well done on doing a workout Iota.

DS1 now has a soft dressing on two of his fingers. Dr said he could be in pain for a week or two, but there's not much damage and he should be ok. Poor lad also had his jabs today, but he's other than a stiff shoulder (same arm) he's not bothered at all. Still went to play table tennis tonight

• Sunscreen yy
• No booze yy
• Walking - weather too lousy tonight.

60 mins ex bike.

• Lots of weak tea.
• Apply body cream as often as possible - no
• Use hand cream/foot cream - no
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm. Midnight last night. Meeting after Cubs tonight meant I was late home, therefore on here late.
• Eat healthily - soso today. Not enough fruit today.
• Be happy. Ok, so I wasn't overly impressed with having to wait over an hour at the clinic (everyone's given appts for the same time grr) but I did enjoy sitting reading a magazine in peace - especially when I should have been in work (flexitime), hehe.

just popping head round the door to say hello and take care of yourself Foo. So sorry to hear what's happening. When the shock wears off you must make sure you look after yourself.

Hello all
How are you today Foo? Soups and smoothies are very good when your appetite has taken a nose-dive. Have been thinking about you.
OK, drum-roll - have been so dismayed with self for hanging out on bootcamp threads and not really doing enough in terms of exercise and diet that last night I took a leaf out of prufrock's well-ordered books and did myself a spreadsheet.
Pinned up inside wardrobe with tick boxes for all boot camp requirements. Am going to make self put x wherever I didn't make the grade and make self look at it twice a day.
Only downside is that I devised this magnum opus while working late so STILL have not opened that fecking DVD. But it's on my list...
Yesterday: water yy, cream and sunscream yy, flexitol yy, walking y (but not enough), early bed NO (I blame Curb Your Enthusiasm and not getting home til 9.15pm) healthy breakfast NO. Good eating otherwise though - Count on Us lunch with extra fruit and healthy steamed ready meal due to lateness when I got home
Duh, I have just worked out who ureb is . Was sitting there thinking goodness, TWO bootcampers with children with broken fingers...!
Hope you are feeling better Polly and a quick wave to luckylady - I aim to eat healthily and do, at meals, but snacking is my downfall and that's one of the things I've put onto my spreadsheet
I guess the solution is to only have healthy snacks in the house - fruit, rice cakes etc. Unfortunately these are generally not as nice as birthday cake

You're all so nice. I have managed to eat a bit of porridge this morning. I look TERRIBLE - massive bags under my eyes and that 'too much make up trying to cover it up but not working' effect too.

I held it together at work and for the kids yesterday but once the kids were in bed I couldn't stop crying. Anyway had a long talk and are at relate today so will see how that pans out.

I do have some support in RL but am trying to limit the people I talk to at the moment, until I am clearer about things. I have given him unti the weekend to decide what he wants to do. he is talking about whether we can save the marriage though which is an improvement.

Thanks everyone - I am sure this is not what the thread should be about! But I do feel very supported.

Well, there is some good news there - I hope Relate further encourages your dh to rethink what he stands to lose, Foo. Good luck today.
Porridge is a great sustainer, and for your poor face I think you should treat yourself to some Clarins Instant Flash Beauty Balm. Put it on the joint account.
This thread puts happiness as a vital part of a healthy balanced life so I think supporting you (agree totally that when the chips are down sometimes RL needs careful "censoring" and Mn comes into its own) is very much part of what boot camp is for
Batters, give Eve another couple of days - I seem to recall my skin went a bit tonto when I first started using it, but it did settle and since then the only monster zits I've had have been when I was between jars

We had a long talk last night Marina and I think I spelled out to him the ultimate consequences of what he is doing.

I think he's in a dream world and so over-medicated that he has ceased to be able to feel properly.

It will be known to the Relate person that he is on medication, won't it...that he is honestly not responding/behaving as he would do if he were well...best of luck.

Foo - hope all goes ok today at Relate. I empathise with wanting to only vent here - MN is a lifesaver in that respect! take care

L&S- have those keys turned up?

Ureb - how is ds's finger?

Marina - a bootcamping spreadsheet is very organised! Perhaps you could patent it? You and www could split the proceeds (well it is her thread). Yes, the healthy snack thing is the way forward although they're never quite what you fancy and tend to languish in our cupboards until they can move themselves to the bin. Incidentally, ds of little language has managed to grasp the word 'more' as he stands in front of the cupboard pleadingly looking up at a packet of biscuits. He doesn't get that from me, no siree..

Batters - enjoy your night out. We want a nice list of yummy foodstuffs please.

Bootcamping good for me at the moment - lots of water, no wine since Saturday, sunscreen everywhere and loads of water. Dh is on track to have lost a stone in 5 weeks, he's almost at the lightest he's been in about 8 years (he had nearly 4 stone to lose) and it's great to see him so perked up by it all. The only dark(ish) cloud on the horizon is MIL arrives in 2 weeks to stay for 3 weeks. In our 2 bed flat. Expect a thread somewhere. Could be in relationships, health or legal. It could go either way.

Morning all,

Still no keys, so we are embarking on a Changing of the Locks (sigh, yawn, etc). So annoying to have to spend money on something like this. araghghgrahg.

Foo, really well done on porridge; I thought marina's suggestion of smoothies was a good one too. When I've felt like this in the past it's been the chewing/swallowing that have defeated me - anything liquid much easier. If you can drink plenty of water that's good too. Hope Relate goes well - it's positive that he's talking at least. What a horrible, horrible time for you.

Calm and healthful-ish here at the moment. Delicious brocolli, anchovies and (brown) pasta (with chilli and lemon juice and garlic - food of the gods) last night. Was obliged to put in a call to DP after consumption, however, requesting chocolate. Request was met. Chocolate eaten. Dairy Milk too - the worst kind! Did watch Curb though, hurrah.

Today, cycled into work, and ate toast and peanut butter and coffee at desk. Quite a bit of water. Trying to decide if I can face dragging my pregnant self to awards thing tonight. On balance, I think not - especially as I realised I've worn my smartish black top with the slight stain rather than my identical smartish black top without ...

grim ish day at work (boss lovely, subordinates are, on the whole, lazy bunch of fking cts and fkwits, aghhhhhgh) so am drinking wine
but

toast at home, x 2 marmite
apple
apple and sultana bar
quails eggs x 5 and celery salt
blt, 400 cal
2 Quality st
grapes
blueberries
and now cooking cottage pie
and have bottle of Chablis in fridge
but will have early night, was in bed at 10.30 last night, albeit after 3 glasses of wine

Back later maybe
well done everyone

children now waiting for stories so must go. Really all I want to do drink some wine, talk to dh some more, watch Prison Break and sleep for 12 hours. Oh well, I can at the weekend

Foo - good to hear about porridge and Relate. Marina is talking so much sense that I've nothing else to add.
Ureb - table tennis eh? Must be on the mend.
bama - lol @ MIL thread potential...
Marina & Pru have bootcamp spreadsheets.
at WWWs Chablis.

I've had a much less hectic day than yesterday so it seems unfair that my sciatica has returned. To be frank, my arse is killing me. So I had a very slow 30 minutes with the dog this morning.

I've eaten bread & butter, prawn sandwich, handful of dried fruit, orange juice, 2 coffees, beef pie, potato wedges & lots of veg. At least 2 litres of water today.

In bed by 10.30pm last night but didn't sleep very well. Lots of face/hand cream.

Happy - too tired to care and MN has been very er, feisty today (it's that full moon thing, isn't it?!).

Hope relate went well, Foo. Have you managed to eat at all today? Thinking of you.

Marina, I love the sound of a bootcamp spreadsheet. Definitely should market it.

L and S, that sounds DELICIOUS ! Can you go to the awards, have a glass of champagne, stroke your pregnant tummy lovingly and make an early exit? Brownie points for going when heavily pregnant and champagne - fabulous.

Well done Mr Bama on the weightloss. That's amazing in 5 weeks. Bama, I know what you mean about the MIL problem. Mine is driving me a bit bonkers at the moment too. Sympathies. A 2 wing mansion would not be big enough for both of us just now.

Still feeling a bit ropey here. Food seems to be upsetting my tummy fairly soon after eating it. Am having to go to work though tomorrow as have a lot on and am panicking. Am teaching IHT in 3 weeks and don't know enought about it so need to get it sorted. DD2 has an upset tum too though and if I call in absent because nursery wson't have her (a) all my colleagues will hate me and (b) I'll have to take unpaid leave. Gosh, being a working mum is wonderful.

Both ladies are asleep now. I'm popping downstairs to clear up the sitting room and then open a bottle of chablis. sorry to fall off the wagon as early as day 2 this week but needs must.

Oops, forgot about the streamlined name, must change it back.

Foo, glad you managed to eat something. Hope the relate session was useful.

Hope you enjoyed your night out Batters.

PITA about the keys L&S. Will your insurance cover the cost?

Spreadsheet, hmm? impressive.

Well done Mr Bama. Good luck with the outlaw.

It's been a long day today and I'm drained.

The funeral was a service of thanksgiving (the actual funeral at the crem was very short and for family) and given what it was, it went very well. The wonders of modern technology, L did a powerpoint presentation of her favourite memories of her mum, which worked surprisingly well, but as you can imagine very emotional. L was an absolute star throughout the service (an odd choice of words maybe) and I was overwhelmed by the love surrounding her from her dad, aunt and grandparents.

I'm still struggling to come to terms with how desperate mum must have been, and also that she had (until recently) a very strong faith, and the fact that she didn't find comfort in her faith. Not sure I'm making any sense whatsoever.

Apologies for boring everyone. This doesn't even directly affect me, but it's knocked us all for six.

Poor DH has come home unable to walk properly because he's done something to his back. I will be amazed if he is able to go to work tomorrow.

On a lighter note, DS2 has been to a presentation for his Chief Scout's Silver Award tonight...and I won a bottle of wine, lol.

Last week kind of went horribly wrong. Not bootcamp wise, just generally. A couple of things made me feel upset, and I somehow just went into a major depressive spiral. But I kicked my own butt on Sunday night, and had it all out with my therapist today, so am raring to go again. So: Monday

Sunscreen tick
No booze tick
Walking Walked to school once out of three, with dogs, and via fields on the way back. Also did 20 minutes cardio and 100 sit ups
Water At least 2 litres. 3 coffees and one peppermint tea
Hand cream tick
Foot cream tick
Bedtime In bed at 10:15pm, lights out at 11pm
Eat healthily Granola and skimmed milk, peach, mushroom soup (with bread -oops), chicken and cashew salad. Refused delicious biscuits at bridge club
Be happy Kind of. It was slightly faked for much of the day but I did clear up one of the things that had upset me and realised I had entirely imagined the problem. And I learnt the "losing trick count" and used it to succesfully make a 4 Spades contract that shouldn't have been. So OK.

Glad the funeral was OK, unknown. IKWYM about suicide - it just is so sad that the person is so desperate that they think their world would be better without them. Hope the family are managing as well as they can.

Am actually in bed before midnight - a miracle. Night all

www - I would second Batters suggestion of Tesco wine club, or Virgin Wine Club. Both have excellent deals at times.

L&S - it gets worse. In a few years you will, almost certainly, have a toddler shut the door on you whilst your keys are inside. You will then have to either persuade said toddler to find your keys and post them back through the letterbox, or risk leaving a toddler alone in the house (albeit a safely locked one) whilst you run to the neighbours to retrieve your spare keys.

Iota - well done on gym.

Foo - So sorry. Hopefully Winnie will be here soon to offer more experienced words, but at bad times for me I have found that following bootcamp rules have helped me feel that I stil had control over at least some aspects of my life. Hope relate helped.

Marina - you have surpassed me. I only ever had a word document! I snack on a bowl of mixed dried fruit and nuts - sometimes is actually as nice as cake, and super filling.

Bama - is the arrival of MIL not a great opportunity for you and dh to leave her at home with the kids and go away for a weekend yourself?

Polly/ureb - as someone who until relatively recently fantasised about suicide often, you don't have to be particularly desperate tbh. Well obviously you are by any rational measure, but the whole point is that you are not rational, so it actualy seems like a rather sane and sensible thing to do. It wasn't until I started to get better that my suicidal thoughts would upset me, and by that time I was rational enough to be able to tell myself I was being stupid, and know that I wasn't going to go through with anything because there was a rational part of me that was getting upset.

Thanks for posting that, Pru, it means a lot. That's my understanding of the rationale behind what mum did, I just find it difficult to come to terms with when it's someone I know, especially today, when I've sat and watched her DD (and she really was her darling daughter) and her loving family.