Help me find shoes!

[WelshMoth]

I want a pair of black Mary Jayne style shoes, rounded and built up so quite chunky all round and a chunky heel.

That's all!

Can't find them anywhere - they're either pointy, shiny, thin heeled/soles, unsubstantial looking.

Can't post a pic because I can't find any that exist! I suppose they'd be pretty retro, but even then I don't know where to start.

Bump

Have you tried Fly London. Your post made me think of them straight away

These from next?

www.next.co.uk/g23462s24

Debenhams, Kickers.



https://www.office.co.uk/view/product/officecatalog/2,30/3552900078050?gclid=eaiaiqobchmi3vpn4ofg5qivtm-ych3p1agnea0ycyabeglmkpdd_bwe 

Also Look at Dr martens shoes

Thank you! The next ones are the closest - I wanted them even more rounded and chunkier tbh.

Thanks for everyone's input.

DMs
www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/search/?text=Mary+Jane

@ImperfectTents I want them! But I'm a size 6