Royal style & gossip: don't be fooled by the rocks that they've got, they're still Katie/Leti/Maxi from the block

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I don't know how they don't freeze to death but they're having fun so good for them!

That’s what I’ve been pondering, SenecaFalls. There’s three young children who won’t have much choice as to their future. William would probably have liked to keep his rescue helicopter job, and Harry would probably have wanted to stay in the army. Neither of them seems to be particularly academic, but add in the Middleton genes and it’s possible any of the three kiddies could hanker after a professional career. But they’ll have been brought up to serve the needs of the institution of the monarchy.

I know this thread is generally a Brexit free zone, but if we leave, there is a good chance the United Kingdom will break up, and Charles will literally be Charles I of England as opposed to Charles III of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
The Prince of Wales title could become defunct as well, if Wales becomes independent....

Oh he'd be raging over the HRHness being diminished in the case of a dissolved Union!

As a US citizen, would it be that hard for Meghan to acquire Canadian citizenship

It’s surprisingly difficult for the average person, Canada has a strict immigration policy. They might make an exception for those two though 😂

@CurlyWurlyTwirly He'll still be Charles III as the other two reigned prior to the Act of Union.

Vanity Fair have a rather good article on the press and Meghan. They steer clear of sensationalism.

But the Queen is still Queen in Scotland, isn't she? Even though it's independent.

Scotland is not independent.

Interesting article, and it's right that most of the resentment and criticism comes from people looking for a way to express their discomfort with an uppity black woman at the heart of the establishment.

Look at the criticism she received when made patron of the national theatre. A former actress, with a double degree in theatre studies and international relations was deemed less able to do the task of hob nobbing with actors and donors than a woman who's never done a proper job or worried about paying the rent.

Let's not even go to all the comments about how annoying it apparently is that her hair doesn't act like a white person's.

Britain has a problem with black people not knowing their place or appearing sufficiently grateful.

Well look at this thread for example. I've just read the entire day's worth of posts, and nobody suggested Harry might be anything to do with the 33k babymoon. It was all Meghan's ostentation and not his. Which is crazy given how he's lived his life (anyone remember the Vegas shenanigans) compared to her.

👏🏼👏🏼 @Becles

And you raise a very good point too @EstrellaDamn.

I thought Charles was taking the name George when he becomes king?

@QueenOfTheAndals I'm full of flu and feeling sorry for myself, but is that a friend egg sandwich or I'm I just looking for fried goods?

That Vanity Fair article has nailed it.

@Becles that was a pair of hands applauding but if it's fried foods you're after 🍳 🥓

@Gooseysgirl that's a story that's been around for years but no one seems to know where it comes from. It'll be hard enough to get used to thinking of him as King Charles let alone King George!

Goosey I heard that in the past too but I honestly can't see how he can swap names at the age of 70+ when we've had decades of calling him Charles. The monarchs who changed their names in the past didn't live in the current world of media and accessibility - so much has changed. Even if he does take the name George he'll always be Charles to everyone.

I thought Charles was taking the name George when he becomes king?

If memory serves, it was more a thinking out loud kind of thing that he supposedly mused on, possibly to please his grandmother the Queen Mother, whose husband reigned as George. But I think when the time comes, he is going to want to be known by the name he has had all his life, and even more so since his grandchild is called George. I think he will want to differentiate his likely short reign.

From what I understand kooshbin that HMQ will always be the Queen of Scotland as it was her ancestor James VI of Scotland who eventually became heir to the English throne through him being the great-great-grandson of Henry VII. James VI became James I of England in 1603.
At this time both England & Scotland were independent countries but both ruled through personal union by James. Eventually Scotland & England joined together in political union in 1707.
So the Queen is actually just Queen Elizabeth in Scotland as they never had a previous Queen Elizabeth unlike England did.
Obviously there is the chance of Scotland deciding to bin the Queen & becoming a republic if/when Scotland becomes independent again. Personally I think they'll keep her.

sorry, but why must any criticism of Meghan must be due to racism? Because it’s not! If people will single out few racist tweet out of a thousand as fully fledged racist abuse then, It was planned all along to happen. To make these troll tweets a race issue.

I think any black American or White or whatever . accusing the brits of racism , should look at the serious race related crimes going on in the US and not the tabloids coverage of MM , touching her hair or holding her bump, that won’t solve any hate crime issues.

Technically speaking the separate crowns ended with the Act of Union. She is not Queen of England or Queen of Scots, but Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, etc etc etc.

Of course if Scotland became independent that would change. Alex Salmond liked to refer to her as Queen of Scots when he was First Minister, but that was technically a misnomer.

The article doesn't say any criticism of Meghan is due to racism
@queenofarles, but points out the occasions where it has been - the double standards and coded language/dog-whistle racism which, if you've ever been at the receiving end, is fairly easy to spot.

SenecaFalls I forgot to add that bit & also meant to say that if Scotland was a separate country that HMQ would be just Queen Elizabeth not Elizabeth I.
Funnily enough I was thinking of you whilst I was typing, remembering all those books you've recommended & me saying how you & my Dad would get on like a house on fire what with your shared subject interests.
And then here you are

That's meant in a nice way btw.

And the coded language dog-whistle racism feeds into and supports societal attitudes that in more extreme manifestations do result in more serious race-related crimes. It's interconnected.