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Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?

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QueenOfTheAndals · 14/03/2019 18:47

Link to previous thread. And not a moment too soon!

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 23/03/2019 20:32

Prince Nikolai of Denmark on the cover of Vogue Ukraine

Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?
kooshbin · 23/03/2019 21:27

Another thread has reminded me that about three or four threads ago, I promised to post an amusing anecdote from David Attenborough’s autobiography of one occasion when he was the producer of the Queen’s Christmas Message. I had copied it from his book, and it’s a bit long, so I’ll post it in two parts. It’s not a sensational “behind the scenes” thing, just a little gentle reminiscence.

Part 1:

I went to see Bill Heseltine, the Queen’s Private Secretary, to discuss treatments. My view was that it was a mistake to try and get a chatty, domestic, I’m-just-an-ordinary-person kind of feel. The whole point of having Royalty is that the Sovereign is not the same as other people. Wars were fought about that issue in the eighteenth century, and the nation still likes to believe to some degree in the divine right of kings. Equally, we ought to be a little more imaginative than simply to ask Her Majesty to sit behind an ormolu-decorated desk. What we needed was an occasion when the Queen could be properly queenly. After all, she had had some practice at doing that. Was there an event around Christmas time where she could deliver the message to a flesh and blood audience and at the same time address the world on television?

“There’s a Christmas party in the Royal Mews she always gives for the children of the Palace staff where she hands out presents and wishes everyone a Happy Christmas,” said Bill.

The relevance of a stable to the Christmas story was not lost on me.

“Perfect,” I said.

There were a number of practical problems to be solved. The Master of the Horse pointed out that if the Queen walked down through the royal stables in the way I was imagining, all the horses would be facing away from her with their heads in the mangers. It would hardly do to have her approach down an avenue of equine buttocks. However, he said, that could be fixed. “We’ll turn the horses around so that they are facing her. It will look pretty silly to anyone who knows anything about stables, but I don’t suppose that will matter too much.”

Come the night, there was a promise of snow which would make it all marvellously Christmassy. In the event, it proved to be drizzle but one couldn’t have everything. The Queen walked towards the camera between the lines of horses’ heads, and was presented with a posy by one of the children. She smiled charmingly, advanced onto her marks, looked at the teleprompter and delivered her message perfectly. Overcome with relief, I started to tell her how splendidly she had spoken when the cameraman, Philip Bonham Carter, started plucking at my sleeve. I brushed him off and continued with my compliments. When he did so a third time, I thought I had better discover what his problem was.

“Tell her to go again,” he said.

“What’s the matter. It was perfect.”

“Tell you later,” he hissed.

My thanks gurned to grovels.

“I’m so sorry, ma’am. A small technical problem. May I ask for a repeat performance.”

She was surprisingly good about it and did it a second time, though perhaps not quite as well as the first. Then she went on to greet more of the children.

As soon as she had gone, I turned to Philip.

“What on earth was the matter? Not a technical problem for heaven’s sake.”

“No,” said Philip, “but just as she started to speak, the big black horse peering over her left shoulder got that funny tickle of its upper lip that horses often get and started to waggle it. It looked as though he was doing the talking.”

kooshbin · 23/03/2019 21:29

Part 2:

The Palace gave its approval to the final edited version. Preparing special versions – in some cases in foreign languages – for the little bits of the Empire that were still left at that time, and sending them off by air (it wasn’t regarded as safe for such a crucial missive to be relayed by satellite), occupied the next couple of days. A lady translating Her Majesty’s words into sign-language for the deaf had to be added in a vignette in the bottom left-hand corner. All seemed finished.

But then Bill Heseltine rang up.

“The Queen”, he said, “would like to see the Khartoum version.”

I broke out into a sweat. I hadn’t prepared any such thing. Was Khartoum still part of the Empire? And why should it have to have its own version?

But it was all right. Khartoum proved to be the name of the ventriloquising horse leaning over the Queen’s shoulder. Bill had explained why we had filmed the message twice and the Queen wanted to share the joke.

QueenOfTheAndals · 23/03/2019 22:12

That reminds me of the story of the time the King of Tinga was visiting and was in an open top carriage ride with HM when one of the horses broke wind.

HM was appalled and immediately said "oh dear, I'm so sorry". The King of Tonga leaned forward in his seat and said "if you hadn't told me, I would've thought it was the horse"!

The story may not strictly be true...

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kooshbin · 23/03/2019 23:40

That might have been the Queen of Tonga, though. About whom many stories of have been told. She was a large and larger-than-life woman. She was in a open coach in the procession from the Coronation, when it started to rain. One of the riders on the coach suggested that the hood of the coach could be brought over to shelter her from the rain. But she refused, on the basis that the crowds would want to see her. And she waved enthusiastically to the crowds who waved enthusiastically back.

She was a Maxima of her time.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 05:21

Love that Kingof Tonga story.
The Queen must love it when someone treats her normally after all the reverence!

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 06:02

Savannah and Mia at the Gatcombe horse trials
Anyone know where Autumn and Peter live?

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 06:06

Sophie looking good with her hair down.
Wearing Oscar de la Renta

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Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?
Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?
CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 06:39

Some unseen photos of the RF

Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?
Royal style & gossip: while Meghan's away, will Kate play?
beanaseireann · 24/03/2019 08:12

I do hope Kate and William are ok, whatever the tabloids are implying.
Sophie looks lovely in that photo with longer hair.
Princess Anne's grandchildren always look like they're having such a great time together.

user1457017537 · 24/03/2019 08:18

Well Bean I think the tabloids are implying something ....

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 08:40

If William has f**d around, If this is all true, Kate is not someone to be messed with.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/03/2019 08:42

If it is all nonsense, there will be some casual shot of them meeting up in Norfolk with their kids.
Also with the alleged story about ‘Meghan shouting at Kate’s staff”
BP issued a statement saying it was untrue.

UrsulaPandress · 24/03/2019 08:58

I do hope the stories are baseless. K & W always look so happy together it would be such a shame if it were all a charade.

Anne's grandchildren all look like mischievous imps. And all girls. Yeah.

I think the Phillips live on the Gatcombe Estate don't they?

BlingLoving · 24/03/2019 09:01

I refuse to read the mirror, but assume the story us that William is shagging some aristo on the side?

I find it hard to believe. Although I do concede that the nicest person on the planet can be impacted by the overall deference and view. Of himself as a king. However, not certain kate would stand for that shit!!

queenofarles · 24/03/2019 09:12

Whoever leaked this story , true or false, their aim is to hurt William not Kate.
The cynic in me thinks , it’s a payback for all the stories leaked about a feud between the two households , I hope it’s not true though , would be a very dumb move.

queenofarles · 24/03/2019 09:17

bling kind of, I refused to believe it a couple of weeks ago, but the style of writing and insinuation in the DM is all too familiar.

Daisypie · 24/03/2019 09:39

I think it is a move to hurt Kate. They seem such a happy little family, I hope there is nothing to it.

QueenOfTheAndals · 24/03/2019 09:40

Let's not forget that the likes of the Mail love to shit stir and if they can get people thinking "there's no fire without smoke" then they've done their job. They did it with all their crap about Meghan and now they're trying it with William and Kate's marriage. Don't fall for it!

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beanaseireann · 24/03/2019 10:20

QueenoftheAndals
I don't think the Mail started this particular story. I think it was The Sun, followed by The Mirror and then The DM, Express etc.

QueenOfTheAndals · 24/03/2019 10:24

I thought it was in the Mail last week? Anyway, The Sun have the same modus operandi!

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Becles · 24/03/2019 10:24

@queenofarles

The cynic in me thinks , it’s a payback for all the stories leaked about a feud between the two households , I hope it’s not true though , would be a very dumb move

Attempted payback by who?

QueenOfTheAndals · 24/03/2019 10:27

I don't think there is even "a leak", it's just tabloids making stuff up!

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strangerthongs · 24/03/2019 10:29

Amy Schumer really takes the piss out of Meghan and those who bump cradle, in her netflix comedy routine. It's very obvious who she means.

I don't think K&W are having marriage problems. I suspect it may be a case of someone in their friend circle breaching their privacy/trust - after all, someone has leaked that story.

Mia's gotten so big and her hair is much darker!

Is Meghan on proper maternity leave now or will we see her at any future engagements? When is Kate's next engagement?

QueenOfTheAndals · 24/03/2019 10:34

@strangerthongs Kate is visiting the scouts on Thursday. Meghan doesn't have any public appearances scheduled, although I think she's still having private meetings with her patronages.

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