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Gifted a vintage YSL mink fur coat

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Furnerves · 28/10/2018 22:59

I’ve been gifted a late 60s/ early 70s YSL mink fur coat, it’s mid thigh length and absolutely gorgeous.

Of course I’ll never wear it, does anyone know where I could sell it to get the best price.

Please no lectures on fur, I just don’t want to give this coat away and I’d rather keep it that sell on eBay for a few hundred pounds.

Thanks in advance.

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MynameisJune · 29/10/2018 15:43

I’d neither buy fur or ivory but if my mum gifted me a fur coat I’d rather wear it than profit financially from the poor animals suffering. If it just goes to waste and no one ever wears it then the poor bloody thing died literally for nothing. Even if the act itself was wrong it’s already been done.

silkpyjamasallday · 29/10/2018 15:45

I wear vintage fur, I've never been egged thankfully but I have been shouted at/called a murderer a few times, so I haven't worn it as often since I had DD as there are a lot of violent nutters around nowadays. Much better to get the use out of vintage furs than buy a plastic imitation that will be polluting the planet for hundreds of years after you are dead. Faux fur is far worse than vintage real fur. You could have it remodelled to fit OP, or have it made into cushions or a throw if you don't want to wear it in public.

The fur debate is in no way comparable to ivory, ivory comes from a critically endangered species, fur comes from farmed animals. It is entirely comparable to the farming of sheep/cows though. Farmed mink have a much better end than any of the sheep/cattle that we eat or wear who have the stress of transport to and seeing deaths at an abbatoir, mink are gassed by their cages, never skinned alive as PETA like people to think. Chinese fur is another matter and I wouldn't buy it.

BlackWitchInChildWringing · 29/10/2018 15:46

I do understand With, I am just asking the question your legitimate point brings up.

paganmolloy · 29/10/2018 15:47

I have a moleskin coat given to me by my mother. I remember her wearing it out to dinner dances and burying my wee face in it as she hugged me goodnight.

It is stunning and I have and do wear it if going out somewhere fancy myself. As it's moleskin it is difficult to tell the difference between it and fake. Also, moles were considered pests so they didn't meet their end purely for fur.

No doubt I'll still get ethical pelters for wearing it but to waste an item of clothing that's cosy and warm to go and buy something else that I can ill afford wins my personal ethical dilemma.

Furnerves · 29/10/2018 15:54

Thanks for all the responses, it’s an interesting debate that, thankfully, has not resorted to any nastiness!

I’m going to hang on to the coat and will look into the option of having it remodelled into a throw.

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TheHoundsofLove · 29/10/2018 16:01

It's a real dilemma as to what should be done with vintage fur. I agree that it would be hugely disrespectful for it to end up in landfill, but couldn't bring myself to wear it either, for all the reasons already stated. In fact, I don't wear fake fur as I do think that it normalizes real fur. There's been several tests done on the fake fur trims that you find on hats, gloves, jackets etc and a small proportion of it has been found to actually be real. Real fur from Asia has become so cheap that it is cheaper to make trims from that. Sad

68Anon · 29/10/2018 16:03

When my mother in law passed away and we were emptying her house we came across 2 real fur coats (Chanel). Both beautiful and in fabulous condition. We auctioned them along with her ball gowns, shoes and handbags. The coats sold for £295 in total. The ball gowns sold for a much higher price than the coats.
The auctioneer did inform us that there is very little interest in real fur coats due to the cruelty factor. We just wanted them to go. I have no interest in wearing real fur.

Branleuse · 29/10/2018 16:05

I am more likely to buy fur than ivory as ivory is useless and elephants are endangered. Rabbit and mink isnt.
I find it bizarre that sheepskin and leather is ok, as is eating rabbit, but a rabbit fur coat is a massive outrage.
If youve worn fur or sheepskin or down coats, you know there is no comparison for warmth.
I get really cold in winter. I wont wear fur because i cant be arsed with the debate but i think the majority of people are massive hypocrites over it

Hezz · 29/10/2018 16:07

I think you'd be lucky to get a couple of hundred for it in all honesty

Aridane · 29/10/2018 16:19

It's gorgeous - but I think you're being over optimitic as to what you will get for it.

Shame it's too big for you, and I guess the price would be prohibitive to get it altered.

I would wear it if it fitted - people will just assume it's fake

pinyata · 29/10/2018 16:26

Could you not get it professionally brought in and with the excess material a hat to match

madmum5811 · 29/10/2018 16:35

YOu get better prices on EBAY.COM the cold parts of the USA and Canada wear them much more than we do. I picked up one like this in a vintage shop and tried it on. It weighed a ton, not comfortable at all.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 29/10/2018 16:56

The fur debate is an interesting one. It is amazing the amount of anti fur wearers who are happy to wear leather, eat meat and consume dairy.

Some Vegan materials are cruel indirectly in terms of biodegradability, chemical pollution during manufacturing, transportation and the effect of mono cultures on animal biodiversity.

No clothing is without cost in this regard, so I think it is MORE ethical to reuse clothing made from natural sources.

Other nations that have to endure harsh winters don’t have the same ethical response to fur so it might be worth selling there.

Oliversmumsarmy · 29/10/2018 17:09

The only people I ever see wearing fur are older women who are not British.

I think fur is something that when worn ages you.

Agree I don't think that they were a good investment.
These coats must have cost thousands and are now a few hundred at most or dog and cat bedding.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 29/10/2018 17:09

www.treehugger.com/sustainable-fashion/vegan-fashion-not-necessarily-eco-friendly.html this makes for interesting reading.....

smorgasborgen · 29/10/2018 17:26

I can't actually believe their isn't more of a moral uproar on this thread. Wearing vintage fur still means an animal died in a painful way and by wearing it/selling it your contributing in making fur fationable again.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 29/10/2018 17:29

craftsmanship.net/eco-fashions-animal-rights-delusion/

Excellent article especially the bit about fur towards the end....

Haworthia · 29/10/2018 17:31

I too don’t understand why fur is socially unacceptable whereas people wear leather and sheepskin and eat meat, dairy and eggs without a second thought. I also have my grandmother’s prized fur coat, and even though it’s too big for me I’ll wear it and won’t part with it. I also bought a gorgeous fur jacket for £5 on eBay last year.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 29/10/2018 17:31

smorg it is not a simple matter -read the linked articles.

Rubyslippers7780 · 29/10/2018 17:33

What about selling it to a film / theatre company? They look for authentic and as it is in great condition it might be worth a try?

FlamingJuno · 29/10/2018 17:35

I tell you where you can wear it without turning a head - Switzerland. Go through Geneva airport in ski season and you'll see plenty of real fur, same in the resorts. Usually on older women though. I'd have it made into a throw.

GoldenMcOldie · 29/10/2018 17:35

I could neither wear or sell it (but that is just me).

Personally, I would donate it to a charity. They could sell it and profits could go back into something good.

doubleshotespresso · 29/10/2018 17:35

smorgasborgen Has it really ever been "out of fashion" though? I have half a dozen or so I wear reguarly, some of these were my grandmothers, she also wore fur consistently, in fact thinking about it if I look back at events/occasions/family gatherings over the years I can remember more than a handful of women wearing fur.

I have noticed recently more friends wearing various fur items too, I don't see the necessity for moral uproar, specifically in relation to vintage fur. Our consumption of all things in addition to meat, fish and dairy is little different surely?

There are far bigger issues in our world which command moral uproar to me.....

Not being inflammatory I am just wondering why you think this warrants such outrage?

RomanyRoots · 29/10/2018 17:37

I wouldn't wear it, nor would I expect to get any money for it.
Somebody did this to me once, I sent it to the charity shop in the end.
Why do people "gift" these things, they can't get rid of it so how do they expect you to?

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 29/10/2018 17:37

ARE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE POLITICALLY INCORRECT?

No element of fashion has provoked more anger over the years than the use of animal fur. Some of the animal-rights movement’s earliest campaigns, dating back to the 1970s, involved actions against fur-wearing women (some of whom had their fine mink coats splashed with red paint). Animal rights activists won another victory this very week, when Gucci announced it would be phasing real fur out of its collection. Gucci’s president, Marco Bizzarri, said the move demonstrated “our absolute commitment to making sustainability an intrinsic part of our business.”
It’s not difficult, of course, to make the case that a $41,000 embroidered mink coat is a luxury, and not worth that animal’s death. Just don’t ignore the rest of the story: First, that coat employed Italian artisans for 90 hours just to complete the intarsia embroidery. Second, the best mink today comes from the U.S. and Scandinavian countries, such as Denmark, where the mink industry consists of highly regulated family farms. For the Danes, mink is sustainably integrated into the economy: the animals are fed fish bycatch and leftover meat from other industries, raised in clean and healthy environments, and are put down painlessly with carbon monoxide. All parts of the animal are used for animal feed and even biofuel—a modern update of the indigenous practice of respecting the animal by making good use of every part of it. In other words, phasing out mink harvesting might save animals, but it does nothing for sustainability. The two are not the same, and it’s high time people stop using one to sell the other.
In fact, if you stop to ponder those indigenous customs, questions only multiply. Should native people suddenly abandon their traditions in order to comply with Western vegans’ morals? Should the Nomadic Sami tribe in Scandinavia stop hunting reindeer and start making polyester-fill puffy coats? Should Chinese families stop making silk and start working in rayon factories? For that matter, should African shoemakers stop using leather from local springbok, nile perch, and overpopulated Kudu, and turn to Asian pleather? If they stop hunting these animals, what will they eat? Will the vegan community send them care packages of vitamin B and cookbooks that incorporate locally foraged legumes?
Fashion’s Bi-Polar Future | Craftsmanship Quarterly, Fall 2017
During a New York Fashion Week show, a model for Livari walked the runway in a skirt made of leather made of the skin of fish from the Amazon. The incident provoked animal-rights protests, even though the skin is a byproduct of fish caught for food. The fish leather fetches a higher price for villagers than the skin’s customary use: farm animal feed. photo courtesy of Livari
“As a Western society, we should be careful about dictating to other communities about how best to sustain their lives,” says Tabitha St. Bernard, co-founder of the new responsible fashion label Livari. “There are people who just don’t have the luxury of not eating meat at all.” St. Bernard now lives in New York City, but her childhood in Trinidad & Tobago informs her work as a fashion activist. “I’m a woman of color and I grew up poor,” she says. “I welcome discussions with vegans about how to make our line more responsible, but Livari is not a vegan line.”
Just this year, during New York Fashion Week, a Livari model walked the runway in a skirt made of fish leather, a byproduct of the native Amazon Pirarucu fish caught for food. When tanned in a chromium-free process for fashion, the fish leather fetches a higher price for villagers than using it for animal feed. “The fact that it’s creating an industry and helping people feed themselves is for me a priority,” St. Bernard says.

^ From above linked article.....

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