Bloggers and Brands 3

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New thread I hope.

Lazarus please don't get too upset as you were not wrong to question the aggressive underhand selling practices of bloggers.
At least know you've done nothing untoward at all!
Bloggers have never been able to tolerate anyone but fan girls on their posts.
When they insult people who question their dubious practices they look like twats, not you!
Hope you feel better soon.

Esther Coren mentioned this thread in her stories this morning, including naming a user name. It’s since been deleted.

Who did she name? 😳

Unfortunately Anna Hart's story has now disappeared so I cannot quote verbatim what she said yesterday.

However she was unhappy about people hiding behind usernames and commenting anonymously. Fair enough.

She then went on to suggest however that she would be able to find out who was commenting on here, as Mumsnet had "invited her in" or words to that effect.

This raises data protection issues and I would like Mumsnet to provide their input on this so I'm going to report my own post...

Mumsnet would never pass on names etc to her, they simply aren’t allowed to do that!

I completely agree chloechloe. I would like MN to give a clear explanation of what they have promised this blogger, and what info about users are providing to her or any third parties.

Paintbox And yet the blogger is insinuating otherwise apparently (I didn't see the post, but from other posts here). I would like MN to confirm this as well. Why are they so quiet? Clearly they care enough about this thread to contact the said blogger.

Who knows why she said what she said (I didn’t see it either, never heard of AH until this thread) but I think people are unnecessarily worried about this, it’s a complete data protection breach and would never happen

I agree with paintbox - mn simply wouldn't hand over people's personal data.

I think some of the comments about Esther Walker were uncalled for on here - she is a journalist and writes very funny but dramatized versions of her life. But commenting on her drinking is really going too far in my opinion.

I wouldn’t be worried about what AH said either. MN couldn’t possibly give her identifying information regarding posters. (But AH definitely said something along the lines that she doesn’t know who the posters are but will soon as MN has invited her in).

In all probability if MN have been in contact it’s fof a panel discussion or the like on the ethics of blogging.

Why is it uncalled for? She uses her platform to earn money whilst going on about how much she and her husband drink. I find that worrying. Ok perhaps a bit rude to say she is a p@sshead but no ruder than some of Giles columns tbh. This isn't an appraisal...

I just think it is getting unnecessarily personal and some of it was incorrect, eg, someone said she had a boozy lunch and then did a schoolrun. I happened to watch her insta stories that day and she quite clearly said she'd had one small glass of wine at lunch - she wasn't pissed driving her children.

Bit I like Esther so am biased - to be honest she is the only blogger I still follow and even then I don't watch anything she does to do with hush/max factor et al.

I didn't say that. I was talking more generally.

I didn't mean you said that sanpelligrino but someone did on page 10 complete with shocked face and that is a pretty serious accusation. I can totally understand if she was upset about that.

Gosh this has really got a bit much hasn’t it, people are being named, crying and feeling anxious it’s not nice to see. I also hate the MN vs IG thing. From this thread and the original one specifically about Instamums I’ve taken on board the suggestions, tried to ignore the personal comments and moved on. Mumsnet also emailed me and invited myself (and other influencers) to a round table meet up. I can reassure you nothing in that email stated that they would be any disclosure of MN users or personal info, I think it was more a discussion how we can work with MN. Hope that reassures you all

Anya thank you for your reasonable comments . I have to honest I’m still massively upset about Anna’s comments about me - they were personal, using my name (not username) and she called me vile. I sent her 2 DM’s with my intention to be helpful giving her the view of someone in her audience- that is all! I said I thought she’d been rude - apparently that has earnt me a special place in hell according to her commentors. Oh and she said all of this on her IG which I’m blocked from. You know I feel physically sick about the whole thing.

Thanks for that Anyalovesarose, I’d guessed it was a blogger panel type thing.

I don't understand all this. Don't put yourself out there warts and all if you don't want to be discussed positively or negatively. Plenty of people who are in the public eye keep their private life private. You can't expect not to court opinion if you are shouting about the innermost workings of life on IG particularly when there is a clear financial benefit. Mumsnet is one place where people can share opinions and feelings about what is going on in the world. If bloggers don't like it then they should stop. It's utter hypocrisy.

@sanpelligrino
Or not read forums like mumsnet where you’re going to be discussed.
I think the main issue (and this is where I’ve found peace with this personally) when people discuss you based on their opionions that’s the nature of the beast it’s not great to read but I try and accept them and move on. It’s when those opinions gets really personal and hurtful and unless someone reports them to MN they remain on threads for everyone to read. I took a real bashing on that Instamums thread and some things weren’t so horrible they made me cry too. So I looked at the comments as market research and took them on board.
There are so many things I see on IG I’d love to rant about maybe I need to go incognito 🕵🏻‍♀️ And let rip 😂

@anyalovesrose maybe you should! 😂 Seriously though instagram has evolved so quickly through monetising what is effectively personal privacy, no wonder people feel conflicted. You are effectively selling a part of your life for public consumption whether you like it or not, something not everyone is going to approve of. So I guess if you engage in that then you have to have tough skin!

I looked up Anna Hart and saw her story and I think her 'devastation' was actually joy at getting more followers! If she's crying because someone said she was unlikable then she really needs to move away from SM. The same for any influencers.

You're either really thick or really naive to think that everyone will like you. If you are on SM for an ego massage then you really need to limit your audience for friends and family.

Also meant to say anya that it is great to see you here

I saw AH’s instastory about MN, she definitely tried to insinuate she could get hold of posters real names etc, a bit of an arrogant statement I thought. Ironic she should be complaining about being called arrogant, whilst being arrogant, kind of proved the point.

Who is Anna Hart please. I've looked on insta but can't see anyone that fits this thread.