🐌 Fantastic Skincare: Hot Snails, Summer in the City - Now with added shelf porn!

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I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. In order to make use of the below form and join in I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

NEW ADDITIONS since last thread:

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

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Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

AUGUST 2017: Sunscreen is pretty much non-negotiable at the moment (not that it’s ever not ), RL bumps have been met in the road for some, unfortunately. Grief sucks but we do our best to offer a bit of comfort even if it is just something as inane as skincare chat . Some of us are lucky enough to be nerding out in French pharmacies whilst pretending to do that holiday thing, the Shelf Porn Off is still on…

I can't believe we're on thread 9

tbh I haven't used a powder as such for weeks what I am using though is my hourglass dim light finishing powder swooshed over my face which I guess is by definition a powder, with my large brush. Which I don't think has talc or anything too bad in it.

And I must add I wore my TO coverage foundation yesterday, it looked great and lasted all day, no powder just the Hourglass. And no adverse affects to my skin thank goodness.

I was just looking at that RCMA powder 🐑 on beautybay on the link Enid gave. Anything else I should think about ordering on there? I could just get something cheap to make it up to £15 but just in case there's any more star buys I might need in my life

Thanks for the recommendation Mintmagnumm but I think SLS irritates my skin.

I looked at the RCMA powder but it's talc so seems like a pointless substitute for my dermablend which I'm happy with plus it comes in a proper pot with a decent puff.

I will start to investigate translucent powders for when I eventually run out with no talc, I have time for now.

Lego - kind natured stocked in boots might be worth a look at. Shea moisture is good but more pricey. TK maxx occasionally has by nature New Zealand in. Moogoo could work too

Enid, I've always meant to look into it as I find the addition of skincare ingredients to makeup a bit questionable as you're layering it over occlusive layers like moisturiser, SPF, primers, etc. which would be difficult to penetrate through. And then HA needs an occlusive to seal it in but maybe it works differently in powder form I'm going with the possibility that the HA in powder attracts water from the atmosphere to compensate for the drying effect of the powder rather than delivering water to the skin but it's purely speculation on my part.

I know fragrance doesn't irritate me much in makeup, aside from base products, so I do think the impact is somewhat less but if it's a known potential irritant then probably still best to avoid I think.

Lego, it seems a bit contagious on this thread but I'm guessing yours is more than a touch of flu.

Dr Dray did a video on hair and dandruff recently. Things like head and shoulders and the Neutrogena rely mostly on BHA but a lot of those are SLS based. I did discover after my ingrown hairs experience with the Avene Akerat 30 that it can also be used for scalp build-up and dandruff. It's a bit viscous thanks to mineral oil so you'll need something that'll cut through that to wash that out. Basically you apply it to the scalp area and leave it on for several hours before shampooing, possibly someone else can help you apply the Akerat as you don't need to be in the shower for that?

@JDSTER check your Pm's.

bo That was my way of thinking too. Plus I wouldn't be rubbing it into my skin. Cicaplast is fine dabbed on and left in small patches but breaks me out if rubbed in. It's interesting.

Lego If mobility allows when your poorly, can you tip your head forward and wash your hair like that so no shampoo gets on your body? I'm liking the Lush sea salt shampoo for scrubbing the scalp but it's very stripping and I do think it needs a conditioner with it. Have you tried good ol' head and shoulders? Is your scalp getting oily or dry? Mine itches if it gets oily. Sorry you're unwell.

Right, sorry, I missed the bit about your hand. The Lush would be no good then as it takes quite a bit of rubbing in. I can't always use it. And H&S is high is SLS I think.

Lego they also do a sls free version too.

May I ask a question on your lovely thread please? I have started using a 'hot cloth cleanser', which was in the M & S box ages ago. Should I moisturise straight after that, or do you leave skin for a while and then add moisturiser?

Thank you

Welcome FiveShelties, a HCC isn't any different to any other cleanser so you can moisturise straight afterwards if that's what you prefer, no special rules with a HCC except the method of removal and a lot of cleansers not marketed as a HCC can be used in the same way.

Enid, this post from Lab Muffin seems to suggest HA in makeup is a different sort and definitely, one that would only work on the upper levels to help fill out fine lines and wrinkles superficially and unlikely to be the LMW HA that's more likely to cause irritation. Were you looking into it because of the By Terry or the MUFE?

Lego, sorry I went off on a dandruff/seb derm tangent (although BHA is good for the bacne in theory) but in rereading your earlier post, is it just a non-scalp-drying shampoo you're wanting that won't set of the bacne? Can you do SLES?

bo The MUFE. I think silica powder is the type I get on with. Wish I could remember what it was like when I had it before. I didn't repurchase so can't have been that good so I'm still boring myself and browsing all the powders at the moment.

I'm not sure abou SLES, could be ok. I can't use anything that requires a lot of manual action, nor anything that I have to leave on for ages. I am in pain a lot of the time so need to take the opportunity to shower when I can manage it! Unfortunately the face routine has completely gone out the window... I can do the cleanser & toner but nothing more. Skin is noticeably not as good at the moment. Quite depressing really. (You're right, it's not flu. and to everyone who's been unwell.)

Your powder search sounds about as fruitful as my winter coat hunt, Enid. I know exactly what I don't want and have no clue what I actually want/is practical and winter is bloody coming and I'm going to freeze to death due to indecision.

Lego, have some too (we have a emoji now? Am I the only one who thinks it just looks like a giant hairball instead?). I find SLES a decent alternative to SLS as it's still a sulfate but not as much of a drying/irritating one but still foams up and cleanses well. Maybe Klorane would work for you? Think the Bioderma shampoos are also SLS based but you'd have to check the INCI on those.

giant hairball

I was thinking more a giant hairy bollock.

Enid PMSL! It certainly doesn't look like a glitterball, what were they thinking!

If this was Netmums it'd be spinning and glittering hairy bollock. disco ball. Let's not give them ideas.

Lego itchy scalp, use of one arm, this is not fun for you.

I like shampoo by 'Sukin' you can buy it from TK Maxx if they have it in stock and Holland and Barrett, they also do body and hand wash (the ingredients are very similar to each other not the shampoo)

I hope you feel better soon and you're taking some kind of useful medication to stop the itching esp if its neuro there should be something you could take.

Nice £20 voucher to spend now what to buy... flu jab bonus

Laura mercier almond coconut bath for £20. Good gift idea
https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/women/beauty/fragrance+perfume/almond-coconut-milk-honey-bath-300ml/p/42169600

Thank you botemp -

I probably have three more uses of the beloved EH cleansing balm left, and I am not RPing. I really like Clinique TTDO and it's half the price, plus of course LRP Toleriane. The Low pH gel cleanser arrived today, together with my second bottle of birch sap moisturiser which I do so love.

I have switched to my Bioderma Hydrabio every other night though, with a couple of squirts of Nia. They go so well together. I do feel I need a more serious day time moisturiser sometimes now with the change of seasons. I guess I could use the Bioderma in the mornings too but I feel it's a bit too heavy. Does anyone have a recommendation for a simple, no-actives moisturiser (cream rather than lotion I guess) for the Autumn/winter months please? I won't use it quite yet and I don't yet want to introduce another new product after the Vit C and new cleanser above, but would be good to have it ready for when I need it.

TIA.

Enid, you now have me imagining moving hairy bollocks shooting glitter all over my screen Have they no consideration for epileptics over on NM (never been, only know of them through the eyes of MN although the S&B board seems to be becoming a bit NM lately with huns and xxx-es everywhere

pupsie I came on to ask the same -I also want a simple moisturiser that's suitable for a combination skin, that's a bit more suitable for autumn/winter, but won't make me oilier. I'm using Vit C in the morning then LRP toleriane but I'm getting a bit flaky. I didn't use any actives last night, just TO buffet and LRP ceramide/niacinamide moisturiser but still a bit flaky around my chin this morning when I put my makeup on.