Nickpic, Well, et. al. just to assure you, coming on here and asking questions (no matter how simple or redundant you fear them to be) are welcome, it's exactly what the thread is for. We don't see it much but if you're unsure whether a question is appropriate, the basic rule would be if it's simple enough to Google eg. 'What is an AHA?' then it's probably worth Googling instead vs. if it's more specific and Google can't give you a conclusive answer, eg. 'What type of AHA would help with a,b, and c, considering my sensitivities with X?'
The newbie requests discussed above that can be considered 'irksome' are those that simply fill in the form without much effort on their part and expect a quick fix solution with a 'let's give this a try then' attitude, not really acknowledging what this thread hopes to achieve with a slow methodical process. Those requests can feel somewhat entitled (not that people are aware of it, I'm sure), I think it may also be down to the type of skin. Hear me out on this, the majority of people on this thread genuinely struggle with their skin for some reason or the other, someone with relatively 'easy', balanced and unreactive skin who may finally be showing a bit of age in their early forties and figures something should be done about that will struggle to understand the need to be cautious or diligent when it comes to skincare or spend as much time as we do chatting about it. They've never really had a terrible reaction that lasted for months or had the state of their skin impact them psychologically so the support offered here by everyone (and this really is a group effort) just holds little or no value to that type of poster.
I always find it a positive sign when people come back continually, whether to troubleshoot or give feedback, no matter how small the contribution may be. Sometimes it's a few weeks or months in between but it's always encouraging to see how people have been progressing and hearing about their improvements (hopefully). For me, that's what makes this thread worthwhile. It also helps that I can moan endlessly about my hair and not receive exasperated faces in return, I'm sure you all have them but at least I don't have to see them
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Thanks all for the input. I agree Dulci about the service aspect, I really have no interest in monetising this at all, not really all that eager about a blog either but I see its uses. I share your concerns about the whole raising someone up on a pedestal and following them blindly (I do sometimes wonder if this is related to the decline in religion but it's probably mostly a convenience thing). I'm always thankful that you remind people I'm no expert (not a passive-aggressive dig, genuinely appreciate this) because when I say, 'Use me as a source, preferably one of many sources then make up your own mind,' people take it for modesty. I'm actually somewhat surprised there hasn't been a backlash over the months so far, statistically, someone should have burned out surely. I'm also somewhat baffled over how much success people have, my 'method', if it could even be called that, is nothing novel or revolutionary. Mostly just sensible with a healthy dose of caution and a forced slow pace, think the only thing that sets it apart is the direct access to discuss it here, the latter isn't my achievement, that really is the merit of those present on the thread.
So proposed changes:
-Moving the form to a Google form with the link in the OP for reference. Only to be used if asked by people on the thread if more information is necessary. I'll give access to the attached sheet with the responses but those that fill it in won't receive a copy (no email info asked) or have any means to copy paste it into the thread without a lot of tech savvy hassle. Unsolicited forms will be deleted.
-Rephrase the intro OP, with your permissions, I'll include some of the phrases from the thread as a result of this discussion and emphasise that this is a place of learning and support rather than an answer/solution query. Clarify we're not here to create routines for anyone by request but will act as a support system in curating one for yourself as you come to understand your skin and its concerns. It's sort of like not telling someone what diet to follow, rather discussing the advantages and pitfalls of nutrition instead.
-WRT product recs, I personally won't be writing out any routines anymore. I'll continue as I have done for some time now, give specific recs for phase 1: cleanser + mosituriser + SPF and general ingredients/product types to research for further phases or agree to discuss specific further recs once a poster has embedded phase 1 fully. Only allowing for exceptions when someone is in immediate skin crisis and needs a very specific temporary routine.
This might mean we'll see less new blood or see an influx of personal questions without context, we can always reevaluate after a period of time but I think it shouldn't scare off anyone indefinitely either. I've done a quick skim of the newbies over this last thread and there have certainly been fewer forms, may be down to the info sheets, I can't be certain but I do think they're helping at a basic level and adding to them will help. Also, on the very encouraging side, we've had a few newcomers who really put in the work by reading through all the old threads over a long period of time, making lots of notes, etc. and all they did was introduce themselves, wanting to join in and they did so seamlessly without the use of a form or merely using it to demonstrate the routine they built up themselves.
Apologies for another giant wall of text, I know I'm due some answers in between this discussion but I'm prioritising getting a draft up of the new OP for now. Really have appreciated everyone's input and thoughts on this and if there are concerns about the proposed changes, happy to hear those too.