Best liquid eyeliner

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I'm not very good at putting liquid eyeliner on but find it easiest with a long felt tip end type. I have the collection 2000 liquid eyeliner which I find easy to use but I find it doesn't last very long on me and I end up with panda eyes!

Can anyone recommend a longer lasting one? I have a maybelline or rimmel one (can't remember which) which comes with a brush and pot which I think is a load of bollocks to use and I have a bourjois one with a tip like a highlighter which I also find hard to use.

Any suggestions?!

I love the maybelline gel one but if you want a long tip type then eyeko is meant to be good. My friend uses a l'oreal one... Super liner maybe? And hers is immaculate
I hate the long tip type and hated both of those so they will probably work for you

L'oreal super slim is the one she uses, just checked
http://www.superdrug.com/Make-Up-Offers/L'Oreal-Paris-Super-Slim-Eyeliner-Intense-Black/p/382152

Smashbox

Eyeko, amazing, I got it in m&S calendar!

Much better than Smashbox, which is much more watery and does not last, my eyeko even survives a sauna and swim!

I guess eyeko is just permanent marker under another name

I've tried a lot of different liquid eyeliners, and unfortunately (for my bank balance) the best one I've found is the Tom Ford double-ended pen jobby.

I like the Kat Von D one best

Urban Decay 24/7 or whatever they call it now. Razor sharp I think.

Far better than any of the myriad others I've tried.

Another vote here for the Eyeko one from M&S.
It's very richly black.

I second Ollivander (for the 2nd time in two days I think...) I use the L'Oreal one and it's easy to use with a good finish. The gold tube is the best if you can find it.

I am terrible with liner and can only use the ones that are like a fat marker - Rimmel one is cheap and lasts well.

Thanks everyone, I think I'll try the eyeko one but will also have a nosey at the rest first

Is Kat Von D make up decent stuff then? I tend to avoid celebrity make up as they're normally rubbish!

Stila or Kat von D (felt-tip pen)
Revlon or Maybelline (inkpot) - not waterproof, unfortunately
Tom Ford (double-ended: brush and felt-tip) - the best of them all, but very expensive. Mine has been lasting for over a year though (probably near 2 years now!)

For the chemist/high street options, I'd recommend the inkpot style liners, as the felt-tip ones tend to dry out within less than a week. Just make sure to find a store with testers to check the brush tip - some have a really fine and flimsy tip that I don't like. I find the ones with firmer, almost felt tip-like brushes to be the easiest ones to use.

The best eyeko one is the extra black one (can't remember the name!)

Soap and Glory Supercat or the collection fast stroke . The felt tip collection one didn't stay on me either but the fast stroke one did!
www.superdrug.com/Collection/Collection-Fast-Stroke-Eye-Liner-3-8g-Black-1/p/228796

Second for Stila. I have used the black Stila for about three years now and buy them three at a time. I'm a big fan of the black eyeliner and it's the best one I have tried. And I have tried lots! Although not Eyeko, tempted to now though...

17 Tattoo Me liner stays on through absolutely everything, but might be tricky to put on if you are just starting out (most people find felt tip pen liners easier to use, and it's a little bit gloopy)

Another vote for Kat Von D.i used to get it muled over from the US before it was in Debenhams.

I have a Ciate one and I've found it the easiest I've tried. And I've tried a lot!

Another vote for Urban Decay Razor Sharp. It's the only one I've found that doesn't budge on me. I always get "imprints" later on in the day. Wasn't impressed by the Eyeko one.

Tom Ford double-ended pen jobby, i love it.

Eyeko or Kat Von D tattoo liner - both are excellent and smear proof, the tattoo liner is also a felt tip pen style but with a slightly finer end so helps to do the flicks at the end if you do those

Guerlain liquid eyeliner is brilliant cant use felt tip ones.

Beware as there are 2 types of Kat Von D eyeliner, the tattoo liner one has a slightly different applicator than her other liners which are more felt-tip like (& not as long lasting!)

The tattoo liners are better but not as many colours to choose from.

Anyone have any recs for a paintbrush type liquid eyeliner, preferably in brown black?