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I used to like M&S but I'm not surprised they are struggling to sell womens clothes, WARNING MAY BE UPSETTING

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Behooven · 08/01/2016 12:22

Says it all...

I used to like M&S but I'm not surprised they are struggling to sell womens clothes, WARNING MAY BE UPSETTING
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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 08/01/2016 21:27

The clothes in that SS16 link

Shock

No Way
None of it.
Any. At all.

There have been some really nice things from M&S in years gone by, this isn;t it though.

MitzyLeFrouf · 08/01/2016 21:28

If I saw someone wearing that middle outfit I'd assume they'd been evacuated during a fire drill at their hotel.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 08/01/2016 21:31

But 70s would you wear THE TROUSERS Grin

Well only if the alternative was being naked and having pins in my eyes while someone stepped on a bucket of mice.

I am old enough to have worn flares in the 1970s so (sadly) that rules me out.

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DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 08/01/2016 21:31

I think I quite like those smart dungarees Lucked, but can't really tell as half of them is covered by the jacket (so maybe I actually just quite like smart trousers?)

FannyFanakapan · 08/01/2016 21:34

I`d like to think that I am in M&S's target audience. I'm 50. Middle class. Good income. Home counties. Larger lady, (16-18) so cannot shop in fashionable shops, still need to buy clothes! And while I'm in there, will shop in homewards / food / men's. I currently have over £300 to spend in vouchers. I live 15 minutes from one of their flagship stores in wealthy part of the world. I have multiple kids from 19 to 3.

I wander around the store and see many ladies of a certain age looking at per una stuff....looking, searching,even pulling things off the rails before putting it back. Per una looks to me like cruise ship style. All a little tarty and mutton-like. Indigo used to be quite appealing to the aging hippy in me...now it just seems to be a statement on colour, rather than style. (Just because its called indigo, doesn't mean it should all be the colour of stonewashed denim). And limited seems to be trying to hard. The colour schemes..well tangerine might be in vogue, but most British women are "spring" colours, so why on earth are we looking at tangerine?? And we live in hot, central heated homes and offices, so polyester is a no-no!

The other thing that does my head in...bias cut. So some, somewhere decided it was flattering. So now we have hideous prints in cheap,synthetic fabric cut on the bias and, as others have said, cut short on the waist.

So another heck is their target woman? Short waisted, likes garish colour with frills and ruffles and alternates between umpa-lumpa cruiser and hippy boho chic? One would hope that m&s would want the broadest possible customer base, not small niche groups. If broad base (which is what I think MN is calling for) then focus on basics and a couple of trendy pieces.

MotherofFlagons · 08/01/2016 21:44

Hell would freeze over before I wore dungarees in the privacy of my own house, let alone in public. It's not 1992 FFS.

StepAwayFromTheThesaurus · 08/01/2016 21:50

Mitzy: I like the skirt too, but agree it looks like it's an unflattering length. I suspect it would look frumpy on me.

tilder · 08/01/2016 22:02

That tent is a leather shirt? What the fuck are they doing?

I want socks that fit, don't wrinkle or disappear into my shoes. I want white tshirts that fit properly and don't show my bra. I want leggings in my size and not 20-22.

Would also be nice if the kids uniform section the last week of August in the only m&s in a city centre could be larger than a dining room table and have trousers in more sizes than age 10 and a waist band for two. I shopped on line because it's the only way to negotiate the 36789 styles of boys school trousers to find a pair in the right size.

reni2 · 08/01/2016 22:03

I tried it on. I looked like an armchair and I'm only a size 10.

Bunbaker · 08/01/2016 22:09

"I see quite a few things that I like the style but hate the colour. Hate the way that each type of clothing is spread out all over the shop in the Autograph/Per Una/Limited sections. If I want trousers, I want them all to be together."

I so agree with this

"Their clothes are far too apple shaped for me."

And for me. Their skirts, especially are designed for women with no hips or waist, and the waistband gapes several inches on me so I don't buy skirts from them at all.

And why is it so difficult to buy 100% cotton knickers? I used to buy their high leg seam free pants and now they only do them in nasty, sweaty polyester. And what on earth is modal?

wizzler · 08/01/2016 22:09

Agree with everything above. M&S is the nearest sandwich shop to my office so I go maybe 3 times a week and will often browse.( and sometimes snigger )
I want to look smart for work, pencil skirts, black trousers, work suits. I don't want to feel constricted in lycra or sweating in polyester. I dont want an animal on the front of my top.
Love their school uniform for DS as it seems to be indestructable but was frustrated to find when searching on the web this year, that the style he wears was only available in age 3-4. He is 11. That was 5 months ago and I am still Hmm.
Please just make sensible clothes in sensible colours in decent fabric. Promise I will buy loads.

Cerseirys · 08/01/2016 22:12

The thing is every now and again there is a gem

Agree. I've got a pair of heels that I picked up at their sale about 6 years ago that get compliments every time I wear them. Only cost me £15 and they're dead comfy too!

shortaris1 · 08/01/2016 22:20

I can't believe no one has mentioned www.marksandspencer.com/cotton-rich-corduroy-dungaree/p/p60079199?intid=WW_springpreview16_lp_product9_9_img these bad boys. Yes cos.a short big fitted woman is going to look great in them. Their new collection has a lot of Little House on the Prairie/Calamity Jane type stuff but could I find a navy t shirt that wasn't in a size 20, could I buggery!

shortaris1 · 08/01/2016 22:23

Big titted, obviously!

thecapitalsunited · 08/01/2016 22:24

I don't understand why there are loads of wool men's suits but hardly any women's work clothes in natural fabrics. It just looks cheap. No one wants to wear the same black polyester trousers they hand out as uniform ffs.

thecapitalsunited · 08/01/2016 22:26

Crikey, those dungarees look like they've been imported from a dodgy tourist shop in Munich.

LyndaNotLinda · 08/01/2016 22:28

The amazing thing is that we all still have brand loyalty. Despite the fact that they've pissed on our chips for the last five years (at least!), we really, really want to buy from them. And yet, it's just too awful.

Actually, I'm wearing an M&S cardigan and jeans now. I love these jeans. They fit me really well and I know from online comments they were really popular style. But they don't make them any more. I ordered about five different pairs that sounded very similar (and I agree - there's bugger all in store other than size 20 short) but they weren't the same kind.

Why would you stop making something that everyone liked?

As for the cardi, I came across it because I was walking through the clothing department to get to Boots because it was raining. It was shining like a jewel in a sea of crap.

Lindy2 · 08/01/2016 22:33

The clothes on that link made me laugh out loud!

lapsedorienteerer · 08/01/2016 22:33

So just to sum up (in the hope that someone from M&S management reads this)....if I want to buy a coat, I'd like to be able to see every single coat, in every single style/size/colour in the same place (likewise trousers, Tshirts etc)Smile OK??

Woodhill · 08/01/2016 22:36

Bought lovely brazillian silk knickers, quite roomy so ordered another pair in a pattern, really skimpy

ppeatfruit · 08/01/2016 22:39

Yes Behooven It's well worth getting nearly new.

I'm not so sure that having stuff made in Britain would be such a bad move Mitzy because quite a few people are fed up with cheap tatty, clothes that don't wash well. Esp. from places like M & S, who used to make better quality stuff. I don't go into some cheap shops on principal.

LovelyFriend · 08/01/2016 22:39

apparently the "¾ length sleeves are designed to flatter."

Which is just as well as the rest of it is designed to look like a very ugly tablecloth!

I used to like M&S but I'm not surprised they are struggling to sell womens clothes, WARNING MAY BE UPSETTING
Woodhill · 08/01/2016 22:42

Per Una trousers fit me and don't cut into me. I don't want polyester or viscose, decent cotton is my request.

Lurkedforever1 · 08/01/2016 22:46

I'm not that suprised tbh. For years m&s have been under the illusion they have stylish modern clothes that appeal to younger customers. Firstly that was never going to work, as everyone under 30 knows m&s is where your mum shops, and thus anything they sell is for old people. Secondly whichever designer they dragged in to modernise them was on hallucinogenics.

Those trousers are just an average example of m&s. I imagine there is some ageing hippy, designing this shit, possibly with an etch-a-sketch and frequent acid flashbacks, reassuring the marketing dept they 'are down with the kids' and 'hey man, these pants are like awesome and inspired by the waltons and the young crowd dig that'

ppeatfruit · 08/01/2016 22:48

Lovelyfriend "designed to flatter" What exactly? Your wrists? Hmm Yes it looks like a crappy tablecloth and you'd get cold wrists wearing it!!