Removing black eyeliner

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I use black pencil eyeliner, either Clinique quickliner or Avon glimmersticks. I find it impossible to remove without waking up with panda eyes in the morning. I used to use wipes but they are a no no, I've used a few eye make up removers to no avail and am currently using Liz Earle cleanse and polish but even that leaves me with panda eyes. Any ideas anyone?

This stuff: www.boots.com/en/Simple-Kind-To-Eyes-Nourishing-Eye-Make-Up-Remover-Cream_954474/

Small blob on index fingertip, using fingertips smooth over lashes, eyelids etc, wipe off with a damp tissue. Takes under 2 minutes. I then go over whole face with Bioderma on a cotton wool pad, you may not need to. Works a treat.

I use aloe vera baby oil on a cotton wool pad, find it to be far more effective than traditional eye makeup removers and a lot less expensive. To get in stubborn corners I sometimes use a cotton bud.

Any micellar makeup remover like Bioderma. Or olive oil on cotton pads. Just close eyes, pat on closed eyes for a few seconds, done.

Coconut oil is my favourite, also the oil cleansing method with castor oil and jojoba seems to do the trick