under eye 'grooves'

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they're not bags; they're not puffy; nor are they particularly dark. they're just deep horrible grooves that i can't seem to disguise in any way. i seem to have had them forever (now mid 40's with very good skin and few lines).

does anyone have any advice as to what i can do to improve the look of them as i always look drained and tired?

I swipe down mine with a bit of Touche Eclat. Works perfectly for me.

they still look like grooves though then, just more even coloured grooves.

It sounds like you mean tear troughs. Have you considered fillers?

Have a look at these photos:

www.google.co.uk/search?q=tear+trough+filler+before+and+after&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=574&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QT9KVYGJMMOd7gbxloD4Cw&ved=0CCAQsAQ

You can sort of fill them in with concealer and powder. tons of videos on YouTube. It literally smoothed out the line.

I agree they sound like tear troughs. I get mine filled and it makes such a difference.

Mine aren't that horizontal. Those look like lines under eye bags. Mine are distinctively on a more diagonal plane.

Ohh i've had those since I was born-I didn't know there was a name for them!

CBA with fillers though.

that's the things! (i didn't realise they had a name). i have a look at some videos to try to disguise them. hope i can find a good concealer that is also BUAV approved.

for people who have tried fillers, roughly how much do they cost and how long does it last?

Fillers cost from around £400-£600, depending on where you go and how much filler you need (ie how deep they are). They last around a year, although they tend to last about 18 months on me. Nothing else gives such a good effect though. I tried so many products and different ways of concealing. I reckon most things actually made them look worse. The lovely thing with fillers is that you leave wherever you are to have them done and look instantly better.

Hi Agatha - i've been thinking about having tear trough fillers, are they painful? and does it leave bruising afterwards?

No,not painful, just a little uncomfortable. They don't usually leave bruises. I did bruise slightly once but it was really covered by make up.

Me too - I thought they were bags! No wonder all the eye-crap I've been buying doesn't work. I don't think I've got the guts for fillers though.

I paid £400 nearly a year ago for my fillers. Still going strong.

I had 3 or 4 tiny black bruises under each eye where the needle went in. It didn't hurt at all.

Best money I've ever spent. I look so much fresher and the money I've saved on eye creams and concealers goes a long way towards paying for my next treatment.

i've been watching a few videos on how to disguise them - usually by very young, pretty girls where you can barely see them anyway. not helpful. my glasses used to hide mine (from me anyway) but i had laser eye surgery 12 months ago so they're really noticeable now (they jump out of the mirror at me now i have eyes that work).

the rest of the makeup is atrocious (so ignore) but her technique works.

And what I mean by "the rest of it is atrocious) is that she fills them in with a REALLY light concealer because she is doing a kim kardashian style contouring. If you use contouring products one shade above your skin tone, they'd be perfect. Starts at about 5.45.

Bobby brown corrector and concealer does a decent job of reducing them best one I've used yet but a no7 highlighter concealer came very close

good video apple, thank you.

must admit, i didn't realise i wore (and owned!) so little makeup until i began watching videos.

feel the need to go shopping tomorrow. hopefully i'll be able to find the things i need in the BUAV approved brands i use.