Please S&B, sort my face out!

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I'll admit I've been lucky, I've managed to get away with it until now but I suddenly look awful.

I've got frown lines, 11s, dark eye circles, I'm jowly and my neck is wrinkly.
I may consider botox in the future but I don't want it yet.
My skin tends to be oily.
I currently use Clinique redness solutions daily relief as I have mild Rosacea on my cheeks.

At very least I think I need:
Something for my wrinkly neck - neck cream, maybe?
To hide my jowls.
A good foundation that isn't too yellow or oily.
Someone to tell me how to cover my lines or at least detract from them.
All of this and it mustn't make my Rosacea flare up.

Shameless bump.

I'd start on the Botox now. A little in the frown lines will make a difference. Have you tried Elemis? They do little capsules of oil that keep your face hydrated like nothing else without it being greasy.

Elemis cellular recovery skin bliss capsules

For the foundation try Estée Lauder double wear light.

Is there a Botox thread? I'm nervous.

Elemis? One of our local salons does it so I may go for a facial to try it out.

Estée Lauder? Thank you I'll go to a counter for a test run.

Try Qvc for Elemis as they have a 30 day no quibble money back guarantee. They usually do good value starter packs. Try the cream cleanser. If you want to blow the budget the marine cream is great.

I've been good all year and scored a bonus at work so Santa may well bring me some Marine Cream too

There's a good kit just now on QVC with the cleanser & marine cream for about £45

The only thing, in a tube, that will make any difference IMO is Retain A.

Botox will make a big difference. Like you I have roseaca and most products such as retinol will be too harsh. When I did botox it was wonderful because I could then just treat the sensitivty of the skin with gentle products as botox took care of the anti ageing stuff.

Estee lauder double repair serum is wonderful and less is more with make up. A dewey tinted moisturiser or light foundation works wonders rather than full coverage. You can then top up with concealer on the red parts of the face.
How about a tutorial at one of the counters? Trish mcevoy if in london or laura mercier are great for a nice "base"

Elemis made my mother's rosacea flare up so I would be very careful. I am tempted to suggest multi-vitamins and diet as while I hate to admit it, the inwards out stuff always has the biggest effect on me. Also oily fish, fish supplements, and obviously staying hydrated.

I think with something like rosocea you need a very simple but effective cleansing and moisturising routine, I'd also build in some exercise to get circulation going as that always helps skin. Make-up: not my area of expertise but one of the more 'natural' counters like bobbi brown could help distracting techniques, and something like tinting your eyelashes could cut down the time you spend every day.

For your neck get a tub of Astral. I have used it for years on my neck and as a night cream in winter. 49 and an unwrinkly neck!
Wrt Elemis. ...the cellular capsule things unless free as part of a gift set are a rip off as the ingredients are no different to oils you can buy from Amazon or health food stores. An oil I do really rate though is Liz Earle Super skin concentrate.
Check out the before and after pics for Neals Yard Frankincense intense. I am treating myself to a pot of that for Christmas.

I am also starting the old MN facial schizzle again with30 % GA as that really made a difference last time.

I don't know whether this is helpful but my glasses are a brilliant distraction! Apart from that, I just try and make the rest of me look as good as possible, so a flattering haircut, nice clothes in colours that suit me and decent underwear all make me look and feel better.

I don't have roseaca but I do have very sensitive skin and for me, the best thing is to use as few products/ingredients as possible. I often just use ordinary oil e.g. coconut or almond as a moisturiser plus a sunscreen for sensitive skin. I'm very sceptical about creams because some products have done my skin far more harm than good.

I have jowls and I avoid anything that draws the eye to my jawline e.g. keep hair either short or long but not chin length and no earrings, high necklines or scarves - yes I know some of these would hide the neck but I hate my jowls more!

Both Liz Earle and Neals Yard products have made my Roseaca flare up in the past.
Using the Clinique stuff at the moment it's not too bad, I just look a bit pink cheeked but the Clinique stuff does nothing for my wrinkles.

I spend time on my hair, nails and clothes but I've gone beyond simple distraction now, I fear!

What's the MN facial shizzle? I've been around a few years but I don't know what that is.

Will find link to schizzle thread later when am on pc but basically we all spread acid on our faces for the wrinkles

Thank you

I can't get the schizzle thread to load but if you put "klaxon 30 shizzle" into search it takes you to it!

Clinique anti-redness definitely one of the best out there for rosacea or redness prone skin but it's not anti-aging. I would stick with it and add in a separate product for aging.

IME cutting out wheat helps rosacea and a whole host of other symptoms. Might be worth a try for a month to see how you feel.

I also second Trish McEvoy if you are in London / manchester - I love her tinted moisturiser which smooths out complexion without being cakey.

The rosacea is not too much of a problem, it isn't raised or spotty and is just a slight flush to my cheeks.
I mentioned it in my OP because I wanted product recommendations that wouldn't flare the rosacea up. It was worse in the summer but has been better since I started using Clinique.

My diet is very healthy over all, I don't eat bread at all during the week, I might have a piece of toast at the weekend if I'm feeling risque.
I've only had rosacea for a couple of years, at various times I've tried cutting out wheat and dairy for a few months each to absolutely no effect whatsoever.

I take Evening Primrose + a Multi Vitamin daily, so whatever the cause I'm pretty sure it's not dietary.

I've also tried slathering my face in tea tree products at night because of the skin bugs theory, only to find that it made my rosacea incredibly red and angry.

So I think it's as good as it's going to get, but it's livable.

My trouble is the lines, wrinkles, dark circles and finding something that works without making the rosacea worse.

What's the skin bugs theory?

Brrrr!
I'll find a link, one of the latest theories about Rosacea is that it's caused by excessive multiplication of bugs on your skin. If you treat this with tea tree and other similar things it will clear up.
That's the theory in a nutshell but it certainly didn't work for me!
I'll find a link.....

Apologies for the Daily Fail link, but here it is

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2657848/The-little-mite-thats-leaving-red-faced-blast-New-insecticide-targets-bug-lives-faces-causes-severe-form-rosacea.html

The information can be found on other sites too.

There's loads of Botox threads on mumsnet - just google it. It's the single best thing you can do to look better. No cream will have the same impact. Don't be scared!