Simple everyday updo wanted

[RedForsythia]

I'm in my 50s with longish, thickish hair. Tend to put it in a pony tail or pull it back in a big clip.

Neither is flattering but I can't seem to do the fancy updos I've watched on youtube with loads of grips.

Any ideas for something easy, quick and flattering?

I'm following with interest. I'm seriously contemplating a bob as the untidy ponytail makes me feel like a harassed mum (which I actually am!) every time I see myself in a shop mirror.

Unfortunately the bob wouldn't look neat and chic on my thickish frizzy hair!

Try 'the small things' blogs. She had lots of tutorials on there.