Black eyeliner - recommendation please!

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I need one that is not too heavy, but does not smudge. Have Been using boots no 7 which is easy to apply but smudges. Have also got a mac one but end up with it all over the place and looking like a panda. Thanks!!

I like the one from &otherstories. A crayon that you sharpen but nice and soft, and not too expensive. I usually use the charcoal one but it comes in black too.

I have a Rimmel eye definer waterproof pencil which comes with a smudger. Its the best I've ever had, and I've tried them all, Bobbi Brown, Clinique, L'Oreal etc.

I don't bother with eyeliner anymore. I used a dark grey or Auvergne eyeshadow and a thin, hard brush to push it into the eyelash line. I think it's called push lining or tight lining?

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Which mac have you got? Their pencil eyeliner is really good.

I use the Bourjois pen with three tiny tips, think it's called intuitive liner, you push the tips in between your upper lashes from underneathto fill all the gaps with black then use it sideways to create a very fine line above the lashes for more emphasis, discreet but effective.

I use the thin benefit one, is so smooth to put on, love it.