Hot cloth cleansers and toner

[CecyHall]

Sorry, probably been done to death but I'm thinking about using hot cloth cleansers and I see that Liz Earle sells a toner alongside her cleanser so should I be using a toner after it?

I'll likely be going for the Superdrug or No7 one rather than the Liz Earle so shall I just pick a toner that sounds like my skin?

Or is the water enough and the toner just an unnecessary addition?

I'm so confused!

According to the beauty gurus, you use serum first, at night, then oil, then moisturiser (if you need it). So, I slap on ANR, then the Vit E oil and leave it for about half an hour to see if my skin needs anything else. If my skin drinks it up, I'll then layer a night cream on (Pro Collagen marine cream or whatever else I have knocking about).

Ah there was a serum too which I will put on my list! Ok, thanks. That sounds like a lot of gloop, does it spoil the clean feeling after cleansing?

Yes, but the results in the morning are fabulous. I don't mind at night, as I am off to bed so can cope with a lard face. Would hate to do it in the morning though. I like my face to be perfectly matte before makeup appplication.

Week give it a go! My skin is good atm but in the winter it'll probably help.

Will not week

I've been using Alpha H vitamin E oil with fab results but I'm definitely going to try the superdrug one when its finished.
After using high end products for so long it's nice to find some lower priced things which are great to use and so cheap :)

I used to nick DH's clinique for men scruffing lotion and use as a toner... amazing stuff, my pores never looked cleaner

I've finally been to Superdrug today and I decided on the radiance one- cant wait to take my make up off later!

I also got a toner, a micellar water to do a first cleanse, 2 packs of cotton pads, a big 400ml elvive shampoo and a 400ml conditioner, a pack of hair grips, a great nude lipstick and the Elnette 3 day straight spray all for £20.

I used the radiance one and didn't think it was as good ass the vit e one personally. It stung me a bit so haven't used it again. Still love the radiance day cream though!

So it's day 5 of the new routine and seriously my complexion has never looked worse. I've always had blemishes but this is a more overall badness, now I look blemishy, wrinkly, greasy, sallow, just generally awful.

I'm really upset about it to be honest. I'm far from radiant!

What products are you using Cecy? Other than the radiance cleanser.

I'm not over keen on the radiance,vit e one is nicer have you tried that?

I've tried Liz Earles Hot Cloth Cleanser lots of times and while I love the packaging and the smell of her products, they always bring me out in chronic spots.
A simple bottle of witch hazel is a really good toner (and cheap)
I am now using Danne products after a series of strong clinic treatments for adult acne.