OK, too impatient, had a shower and washed the days scents off, just so I could try some more.
Carnal Flower on one wrist, Fleur nocturne on the other. Both gorgeous.
OMG!!! Fleur Nocturne is the beautiful, lush, white floral I've been searching for. It is simply a scrummy sweet gardenia/jasmine, a smidge of coconut and very soft subtle fruity notes. It is delicate, yet opulent. This one won't offend anyone so not for you tar and rubber lovers.
Carnal flower is in many ways similar, but at the same time very different. It is much greener, and I'm getting a waxyness from the tuberose and more 'thickness'. This smells like a real plant, there is freshness, there is a little earthiness and it is much more edgy than Fleur nocturne.
Neither of these two tuberose fragrances have the nauseating headyness of Fracas.
Out of the two I think I'm loving Carnal Flower more but I NEED both of these in my perfume box!