Smudge proof kohl type eye pencil - does it exist?

[Selks]

Just that really. My daily 'look' is a light application of grey or light brown kohl eye pencil under my bottom lashes. I like this but it only seems to last for an hour or two before it smudges or seems to disappear.

Any suggestions for how I can get this look to last for a bit longer?

Collection 2000 do these great twist up eyeliners. They stay put. Avon glimmersticks eyeliner- which is another twist up - is good too.

MUA does a good range in super drug and they come with an inbuilt sharpener. Pretty good staying power and only a quid!

I wear eyeliner everyday.

Thank you, will check those out.

Should have mentioned I like the non-shimmery/non-pearly solid colour eyeliners.

Urban decay 24/7 liner in my experience does not move at all

Kohl is smudgy-it's its nature. Try a waterproof eyeliner?

Estee lauder double eyewear. I read the recommendations on here and i got myself one last week. It totally stays put and if after two weeks you dont like it you can take it back for a full refund (john lewis). Its a 100 percent guaranteed to stay put.

Urban Decay, Nars or by Terry. They all stay put IME

Thanks for the suggestions. I know kohl is smudgy, just wondered if there were any ways round that. I don't want the harsh line of a liquid liner - unless there is a way to apply it that gives the 'smudgy' look.

(Yes I know, I'm probably asking the impossible - wanting a smudgy line that lasts....)

Chipstick - interestingly I have just bought a double wear mascara - it's not arrived yet but it sounds good.

Will check out the Urban Decay and other recommendations - thank you.

Have just looked at the Urban Decay 24/7 eye liner - sounds good - might have to invest in this set

The double wear ones look great too - here - thanks! Spoilt for choice now

I have a MUA eyeliner pencil and it stays put all day.

Thank you, both of you. I'll look into your suggestions.

You've all been really helpful

The Chanel waterproof one is pretty good. Definitely urban decay and the Bobbi brown long wear ones too.

Great, thanks

L'Oreal infallible is fab & its mechanical so you don't waste any sharpening it all the time.it has a rubber smudge tool on the end. It stays put all day & is waterproof.