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So, should I be panic-buying loads of coral coloured stuff or what?

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TattyDevine · 28/06/2011 21:22

Right so I got my colours done on the weekend (!) and I'm a bright/clear spring and to cut a long story short one of my really good colours is that pinky orange/coral that is about a lot at the moment, or flamingo pink, or a peachy pink. Coral, basically, is what it tends to be called.

Since then I've seen shedloads of coral coloured stuff about, much of it in the sale or about to be. Its possibly passed me by before now but I suspect it has been one of the season's "fashionable" colours - or is it always about of a summertime? Hmm Confused

Anyways. I've never been attracted to it on the hanger particularly but it does make me look 10 years younger and light up my face and make my eyes pop out in a good way and generally make me look like there's life in the old girl yet. Obviously there are lots of other colours that also looked good but none of them quite made the lady draping me and her other victim client's jaws drop to the floor quite so much

So is it a temporary thing, will this colour dissapear for approximately a decade till it comes back in again, or is it always about a bit in the summertime? If not, I guess I should buy a few key pieces in the size I ought to be my size? Confused

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WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/08/2011 17:34

Hi am I allowed to join in? I'm not a spring, am a sweetpea summer, classic ingenue style-wise.
I was watching this thread at the start, but have just got back from hols, and am thrilled to find others who won't go Hmm when I start blathering on about style personalities Smile.
Someone asked earlier about famous 'types': Helena Bonham Carter < swoon > - ingenue, probably natural; Gwyneth Paltrow - classic ingenue; Kylie Mynogue - romantic gamine; Madonna - dramatic gamine; Davina McCall - also dramatic gamine I think; Nicole Kidman - classic ingenue, as is Helen Mirren. Victoria Beckham has to be a gamine, either classic or dramatic.

I'm feeling inspired by this thread, actually, as I've realised I tend to ignore my 'type' when I really need something (like a mac or boots) and can't find the appropriate thing in the shops that fits my style. I'm afraid I've bought shapeless macs and clompy boots in the past, just to have something to wear in the wet weather. Will try harder!

KristinaM asked about ingenues; the sort of icon to bear in mind is a Victorian lady (think a high-necked governess blouse and hair piled up with tendrils floating down) - the style is not only feminine, but 'ladylike' (not a word we often aspire to these days!) I was confused for a while as well with the concept of dressing as a little girl, as I saw it, but then I was told that it's a very youthful style, as is gamine, so the two can often overlap.

Facially, ingenues have an innocent, almost naive look, and a general prettiness about them (you could have knocked me down with a feather when the consultant said the first thing that struck her about me was that I was pretty!) Lace is fab on us, as are ruffles and bows, but on a smaller scale than the romantics - we can be easily overwhelmed by too much of a good thing. Small prints, old-fashioned floral sprigs, decorative pleats, tucks and buttons.
Jewellery is small scale and pretty, shoes are pretty, details like a bow or ruffle look great, boots should be delicate (Mary Poppins chim-chiminee is ideal and I've had them in the past, but there's a fine line between dressing for your type and raiding the costume basket!) I seem to remember a character in Gossip Girl who I thought was a perfect ingenue - will try and find a link.

I could go on on (sorry just realised have), but I find it fascinating and it's been such a revelation to me. Also such a relief to know that I can pretty much always reach into my wardrobe and pull out something appropriate.

WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/08/2011 17:48

Oh, Blair Waldorf is the character - some examples of her style here. Her skirt length is much shorter than most of us would probably want to wear, but her style is definitely ingenue I reckon (and I love it).

TattyDevine · 14/08/2011 18:27

What'swrongwithyou - welcome - we want to hear lots, lots more from you! Grin

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moragbellingham · 14/08/2011 19:12

Can you direct us to where all that info is from What'sWrong as I would love to be cheeky and ask about gamine traits but don't want you to go to the trouble of writing it all out!!

Spring ladies - is violet a no-no? I do have leanings towards winter (hastily trying to find delivery note for returns).

CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 19:12

you're very welcome what'swrongwithyou. we can't get enough of the wankfluffery as you've probably seen

my consultant said nicole kidman was an natural-ingenue but tbh, i think with celebs it partly depends on who's styling them at any point.

ingenue was explained me thus: they have an air of innocence and vulnerability, men are attracted to them and will flirt more with them than any other type but they aren't sexy like the romantics. can't show much flesh as it'll seem inappropriate

and yy to everything else you've said too.

TattyDevine · 14/08/2011 19:17

We have a violetty colour in our palette - its called hyacinth - its violetty, but bluey violet, not pinky violet, if that makes sense...

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TattyDevine · 14/08/2011 19:20

Aptly named, too...

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CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 19:32

also whatswrong keen to hear how you've combined the frilliness of the ingenue with the no-nonsense sleek lines of the classic. i've got a similar challenge with natural-ingenue

CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 20:15

another description of the clothing personalities but tbh, like the colour analysis you really need to have it done properly. going by descriptions on these type of pages i'd said i knew for sure i wasn't an ingenue or a natural Grin whereas the consultant will explain which bits of the types align with you. bear in mind the majority of people will be a combo of two

moragbellingham · 14/08/2011 20:32

Love that hyacinth colour (a bit like the Boden periwinkle), but my purchase is the IO dress in "blue" which really isn't blue but a striking violet.
Hmmmmmmm

CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 20:53

what do you reckon to this? too dusty for spring?

WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/08/2011 20:55

Morag, I think I'm just recalling what I was told at my image day, and what I've gleaned from a couple of other consultants I've seen since. I might have more info on the other types, but I've never been able to find anything detailed online, certainly not in the same detail HoC goes into. They seem to keep it quite secret.

I was given a leaflet thing, more tailored towards myself, but I'll try and dig it out and see if there's anything more.

Afair, gamines are often 'head girl' types. They look fab in uniform, which means military or naval styles are perfect for them. They can also wear quite large, strong patterns, in spite of their small scale, and tartan and stripes are fab on them. They can wear their hair really short (pixie cuts or the well-known 'gamine crop'), and they can wear minis no matter what their age Envy. Also, their long legs mean capris/cropped trousers don't make them look stumpy.

One thing I was told, which amused me but kind of makes sense, was that the different personalities can be compared to pantomime characters. So the ingenue is Cinderella, the fairy godmother (satin, frills, curls etc) is the romantic, the wicked stepmother (strong make-up, angular, severe lines) is dramatic, gamine I suppose would be Prince Charming, and the natural would be ... I can't remember Blush.

Cake I think you're right about La Kidman - she must be a natural with that hair. Re. the classic element: I struggle with this, especially as I'm an SAHM so rarely need to wear a formal suit, but I think it's more about a bit of extra polish - I can't leave my hair to air-dry, for example, although I appreciate that hardly makes me a contender for Miss Well-Groomed Grin. Not sure if I manage it, actually - I often think if I went to work, I'd have a ball buying VW fitted jackets and even her bustle skirts. I try not to wear jeans too often (an easy trap to fall into if you're SAHM), and find, in the summer, capri pants are a good alternative.

You need crisp fabrics if poss, though, again, my SAHM-ness means I'm reluctant to have too many cotton blouses to iron. Little blouses with puffed sleeves are lovely, though, especially if they have tiny ruffles down the front . I think it's a matter of generally trying to keep things reasonably smart/polished, whatever you happen to be wearing. I think Dorothy's a lot more knowledgeable than me on the classic element, though.

moragbellingham · 14/08/2011 21:01

Right, I think I'm sorted. I have a split personality i.e. gamine/ingenue which is kind of oddly contradictory.

Thanks for the descriptions and links.

CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 21:01

no - gamine is buttons! she memorably called natural 'hagrid' Hmm

CakeandRoses · 14/08/2011 21:02

and natural is prince charming

RipMacWinkle · 14/08/2011 21:03

How long did the style "day" last CakeandRoses - was it a full day?

I've read and read the descriptions but am still a bit lost.

WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/08/2011 21:12

Ah yes that would make sense - the double-breasted uniform!

twooter · 15/08/2011 06:03

I was at the style day from 9 am to 6.45pm, but there were 3 of us, and lots of talking. It would depend on how talkative everyone is, but it is still a full day.

CakeandRoses · 15/08/2011 07:31

morning springs (and autumns and summers! no winters as yet, have we?)

whatswrong i guess it's easier to blend classic and ingenue then as both like neatness and precision. harder for me as i don't have that with my natural side but totally do with my ingenue side (and i do feel this battle all the time)

and actually prince charming could be a classic rather than a natural, thinking about it Confused

so, my burning question of the day... what are kate moss and sienna miller? i'm thinking ingenue-naturals both. trying to figure out my style so would be useful to know what they are (altho i'm fairly sure they are more ingenue than i am)

rip there was just me on my day so it was 10.30am (had train problems) til 5.30pm

CakeandRoses · 15/08/2011 07:50

Controversial.... (especially with dorothy!) I'm wondering if some Springs don't suit such a mix-up of colour blocks. I'm starting to think that due to my love of small scale prints (ingenue) and need to look natural, that colour blocking say a yellow dress with a violet cardi and a splash of kerry green or turquoise would look too much for me i think whereas i could totally do it with a print combining 2/3 of those colours and then another colour cardigan or accessory

TattyDevine · 15/08/2011 08:54

I think because you have so many neutrals in your pallette as double stars at 100% Cake, you can certainly get away with "not" doing that...

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sparkout · 15/08/2011 08:58

I've noticed a few autumns like myself and have loved reading this thread! Any autumns fancy starting another thread?!

moragbellingham · 15/08/2011 09:15

I have to say CakeandRoses that I'm not keen on the Monsoon top, it's the colour. I have never worn it, so maybe I should try - is it terracotta?
I am however liking the "collins" top that comes up at the bottom of the page in a weirdy limey yellow colourConfused. Is that a spring colour? It's a mile away from buttercup!

opalmum · 15/08/2011 09:26

Hi, may I join you? I'm a "paintbox spring". I think that translates to bright spring, and a natural romantic. Naturals are puppys and romantics are elephants (!) if you were described as an animal. And in terms of pantomime characters: classic would be the queen, natural would be the gypsy (?!) , gamine is principle boy, ingenue is cinders, and romantic is fairy godmother. Sounds wanktastic, but it is a bit of fun, and does seem to be working for me! It's certainly made it easier to get dressed in the mornings.

CakeandRoses · 15/08/2011 09:44

Welcome opal! I'm a paintbox spring too - what are your best colours?

I don't think a lot of the analogies are that helpful tbh as they're often quite negative - who wants to be an elephant or wicked step-mother for instance? Makes the categories harder to relate tro if anything. Gypsy really didn't resonate with me until the consultant explained it fully and I realised that she also meant bohemian.

morag I relooked at the swatch for terracotta yday and it was uber-bright so nothing like that top! Will look at yellow one when I'm off blackberry and on mac
So no takers on the subject of sienna and kate?