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Struggling with partner & step kids - am I being unreasonable

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ALS1979 · 13/12/2024 15:39

Myself and my partner have been together eight years we’ve never lived together. I have one teenage son by previous marriage. He has two children aged 10 and 12 from a previous marriage. 10 months ago he asked if he and his children (he has custody 4 days per week) could move in with me for a few months to save a deposit for a bigger house as he was at the time renting a two bedroom property. I reluctantly agreed despite having my reservations. Six weeks after moving in with me he lost his job and remained unemployed for four months, I’m still convinced now that he didn’t do everything he could to find work during this time, he just laid on the sofa all day every day. During those four months of unemployment I was not only paying all the mortgage, bills and food shopping, I was also trying to cover as much as I could of his debt repayments because I was worried that if he was taken to court through nonpayments that he would never leave my house (He takes credit via cards and loans whenever it’s available) Subsequently I am now in significant debt which he can’t really afford to pay me back, he’s giving me around £80 a month and a few hundred towards food shops. I also had to pay for some car repairs for his car that broke down because again I was worried he wouldn’t get work unless he had a working car. Now 10 months on he saved no more than £400 towards a deposit for a new house. The state of my small house has declined through having additional people live here (holes in walls, broken floorboards, stains on carpets). My 15 year old son is having to share his room with a young child and no space or quiet time for his studies. Him and his children are incredibly messy, never tidy up after themselves, have poor manners and one can be very rude and insulting. He’s currently trying to see if he could get a council house as this would be much cheaper monthly and no deposit would not be needed however I’m not sure if he’ll be eligible. He said he’s sick of me being in a bad mood and stomping around cleaning up and it’s making him uncomfortable so he needs to leave sooner rather later. I feel anxious and low almost every day and now dread coming home which is sad as after a difficult divorce this little house was always my safe space but it feels the opposite now. A part of me feels that I’m justified for feeling completely overwhelmed and anxious about the living arrangements and debt that I’ve now got but then part of me also wonders am I being unreasonable? Have I got to an age now (mid 40’s) that if I can’t live with other people I’m gonna spend the rest of my life alone with cats after my son moves out? I guess I’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience of living with a man and their children and is it normal to have such low tolerance of other people living in your house.

OP posts:
Lurkingandlearning · 14/12/2024 14:08

femfemlicious · 13/12/2024 15:52

Yep kick him out. The council will house him.

This. And I’m fairly sure they won’t while he is still living with you.

WaltzingWaters · 14/12/2024 14:25

It’s not that you won’t be able to live with anyone again when your DS moves out. It’s that unfortunately you’ve ended up with a cocklodging waste of space this time. Unfortunately, as others have suggested, I reckon he knew that he was likely to be fired, or quit his job once he moved in with you.
Please don’t waste any more time with this lazy, rude arsehole and kick him out immediately. Do it and change the locks whilst he’s at work if you fear he’ll have a temper.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 14/12/2024 16:31

ALS1979 · 13/12/2024 16:40

Thank you everyone for your responses , I’m crying reading these and not in a bad way (at least I don’t think it’s bad), I think it’s a complete feeling of relief to get validation for my feelings. I haven’t really confided in anyone except my sister during all this (I think in hindsight I’ve been embarrassed as I’ve always considered myself a strong independent woman) and genuinely have started to believe that it’s me being unreasonable and ‘cranky & hormonal’ as boyfriend puts it. I’ve not challenged him as much as I probably should have as he has a very intimidating temper (he would never be physical) but it puts me off these discussions as it quickly escalates and he usually implies I’m just being selfish and will then stone wall me for a week which makes things even more uncomfortable. He is working now and is on a good salary but he alone has over £1700 of debts & bills each month to pay so it doesn’t leave much for savings after giving me money for food. Thank you for the suggestions of an eviction letter for the council, I’ll discuss this with him later as I would imagine it could improve his priority level. Thank you again to everyone for your supportive responses, it really has helped no end 🩷

Don't send him an eviction letter. When he is out change the locks bag up his stuff and text him to come and get it. The kids can go live with their mum and he can stay with a friend or at a hotel, whatever - not your problem. If he gets violent call the police and don't let anyone move in to your home ever again.

OriginalUsername2 · 14/12/2024 16:36

Everything everyone else has said. Also state clearly, this is your home, you have kindly allowed him to stay and he needs to remember that and speak to you with respect.

Fraaances · 14/12/2024 16:36

Oh Jesus Love, he did some work on you. Bin this one. He’s a tick. A leech. A barnacle. Absolute parasite.

ALS1979 · 14/12/2024 17:35

So I’ve done him a letter to support with his council house application stating I’m evicting him in January so we wait to hear the outcome. I’m hoping that the letter along with him being main carer and one child being in receipt of DLA and being on a EHC plan it may give him priority. I agree that I do need to grow a pair and just tell him to leave sooner rather later, I guess I feel uncomfortable as originally gave him to end of March to get himself together but I feel it’s unlikely to happen then unless he gets a council house. I won’t kick him out before Christmas because of the kids, yes they can be annoying but they are still kids getting caught in the crosswire and already have their presents under the tree, xmas bed covers on, advent calendars up etc, I couldn’t just chuck them out this close to Xmas. Not sure why I feel so anxious about taking the hard line as you’ve all pointed out I should feel well within my rights I think I’m just one of those people that always feel bad for taking the hard line with people (both my parents were the very passive apologetic type). I’m so looking forward to living on my own again with my son though, I did it for 9 years before all this snd loved every minute, it was stress free bliss

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shortoedtreecreeper · 14/12/2024 17:45

ALS1979 You're doing the right thing.He's not got a leg to stand on.Please don't let him make you feel guilty.In fact you've done too much for him.Remind him of the money he owes you if he tries to make you feel guilty.
Don't back down, I think on here if you.find it hard to say no , they tell you.to rinse and repeat.So keep saying the same phrase over and over to him.
I want you to leave by January.
No I need you to go , or something similar.
What ever he comes back with don't back down.

LumpyandBumps · 14/12/2024 18:01

ALS1979 · 14/12/2024 17:35

So I’ve done him a letter to support with his council house application stating I’m evicting him in January so we wait to hear the outcome. I’m hoping that the letter along with him being main carer and one child being in receipt of DLA and being on a EHC plan it may give him priority. I agree that I do need to grow a pair and just tell him to leave sooner rather later, I guess I feel uncomfortable as originally gave him to end of March to get himself together but I feel it’s unlikely to happen then unless he gets a council house. I won’t kick him out before Christmas because of the kids, yes they can be annoying but they are still kids getting caught in the crosswire and already have their presents under the tree, xmas bed covers on, advent calendars up etc, I couldn’t just chuck them out this close to Xmas. Not sure why I feel so anxious about taking the hard line as you’ve all pointed out I should feel well within my rights I think I’m just one of those people that always feel bad for taking the hard line with people (both my parents were the very passive apologetic type). I’m so looking forward to living on my own again with my son though, I did it for 9 years before all this snd loved every minute, it was stress free bliss

Well done for taking positive steps. I can understand whey you don’t want to evict them over Christmas.
Depending upon the level of need in your area please be prepared for the local council to try to persuade you to give him longer, and then basically do nothing until he physically leaves. It’s not really their fault. It’s just something they have to do as under so much pressure, but you will need to remain firm.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 14/12/2024 18:12

End it now. It’s a totally unacceptable situation for your own child. Tell him it’s over, don’t be fake for Christmas, he will need to move in with family. He’s a massive user and doesn’t care about how it affects his kids, yours or you. You made a mistake and it was stuid putting a 15 year old in that position re their bedroom, move on.

smellydog1 · 14/12/2024 18:31

Omg they can take the presents with them . Stop making excuses for this low life, there is never going to be a right time to throw someone out, but not your problem, he outstayed his welcome months ago

SaagAloopa · 14/12/2024 18:32

Ltb

Jimjamssy · 14/12/2024 20:11

He's a leech and lord have you been used.
His children are not your concern.
Involve the police and get him out.
He will bleed you dry.

Wolframandhart · 14/12/2024 20:17

Fraaances · 14/12/2024 16:36

Oh Jesus Love, he did some work on you. Bin this one. He’s a tick. A leech. A barnacle. Absolute parasite.

This.

why does he have the children more than their mother, as that is unusual?

Pineapplewaves · 14/12/2024 20:26

Your DP won't get priority on a council house because of his DC, the DC can go and live with their DM, they have somewhere to go and won't be homeless, it doesn't matter if their DM is happy about it or not. He can still see his DC, he can take them out and then take them home at bedtime.

I would wait until he goes out, change the locks and tell him you'll put his belongings on the doorstep for him to collect when he has arranged some where to stay. He can go to the council and declare himself homeless. They won't find him somewhere to stay until he has nowhere to stay.

ScarlettSunset · 15/12/2024 08:18

Honestly, I would want them out before Christmas.
Why should you and your child have to put up with them, potentially ruining yours? You could have a lovely Christmas just the two of you, while his kids get to spend Christmas with their own mum. And he goes..well, who cares? Anywhere but yours...

ApocalypseNowt · 15/12/2024 10:17

Honestly, kick him out now. Each day you let him stay you are prioritizing an unrelated shitty man over your own son.

The best Christmas present you could give your son is to get this parasite out of your house.

ChristmasinBrighton · 15/12/2024 13:29

I feel very sorry for your DS.

historyrepeatz · 15/12/2024 14:03

Please make sure this man never has a claim on your property.

You sound very nice towards the kids but make sure you stick to things come January. He's had a long time to make much more of an effort. If he hasn't don't that by now he's not going to do it whilst you provide such an easy life for him.

Please do have a chat with your son 1 -1 and explain the plan.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/12/2024 22:49

You don't have 'low tolerance.'
If I was in his situation and my partner would housing me and my kids for freee and paying for our foot I would be kissing his feet with thanks and making his life as easy as possible being the perfect house wife so that he never kicked me out. He is taking the p.
If you formally evict him then the council will have to house him and children somewhere. Whether you want to remain in a relationship with him can be decided after that.

Your son is doing gcses and need to have space to rest and invite friends to. Please put him first.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/12/2024 22:51

Ps I also housed an unemployed video game addict who then left me when I was 8m pre my as soon as he got a job, he is now unemployed again and has found another girlfriend to house him

comedycentral · 15/12/2024 22:54

He saw you coming didn't he, he's had a right good time with you waiting on him. Your poor son, he will resent you for this.

AdventureCode · 09/01/2025 17:09

How are you getting on OP, was Christmas OK and has the council been in touch?

MeridianB · 09/01/2025 17:45

OP, hoping things are moving forward.

Can you really trust him to do everything he can with the council? I think you need a plan B to ensure this does not just drift on for the rest of the year. He is already supressing you with abusive/intimidating behaviours. You need him out of your house asap. Think of your son to spur to you on. He deserves so much better.

Wolframandhart · 11/01/2025 10:43

MeridianB · 09/01/2025 17:45

OP, hoping things are moving forward.

Can you really trust him to do everything he can with the council? I think you need a plan B to ensure this does not just drift on for the rest of the year. He is already supressing you with abusive/intimidating behaviours. You need him out of your house asap. Think of your son to spur to you on. He deserves so much better.

this. It just doesnt benefit him at all to make any efforts.

Unblending · 17/01/2025 07:43

Feel for you OP. Some men are fine as boyfriends and maybe even would have been OK as first husbands but they’re just not up to managing their lives post divorce especially if they have challenging kids. The trick is to let them get through that 100pc by themselves and watch from afar to see if they emerge any better at life after having to crack on at it by themselves for as long as necessary.

Except for the money stuff this could have been me. DP moved in with me temporarily after his exw relocated with the kids as we thought there wasn’t much point paying rent on a house in an area his kids no longer lived.

This was a huge mistake on my part. The kids were disrupted by mum’s move and dad’s move here. They came at weekends and fought and whined and ransacked my home and wet beds so frequently we had to buy new mattresses. One of the kids who has severe autism physically attacked me (as he would his parents).

I was Mary Poppins for a while, teaching DP how to get kids to eat meals at the table, have bedtimes and use behaviour charts. He still uses these techniques and has developed some more of his own but I think he resented me for it. Projected that ‘I believed’ he wasn’t a good parent. So this took a lot out of me and I didn’t get much back - though DP did pay me for repairs and did a lot of home improvements in areas his kids hadn’t broken.

When DP decided he would also move to the exw’s new area to have more time with the kids I was relieved. Totally unblended. He’s doing much better as a single dad now as I left him to it. I see his kids maybe once a month. I’m certain we won’t live together until his kids have left home and they do seem to prefer their mum’s house where the parenting hasn’t changed. No rules or bedtimes or vegetables there and unlimited screen time.

Luckily DP is well off. I suspect if he’d had money troubles too they would have become my troubles, just as his exw and kid troubles became my troubles, because I let them.

That’s the thing to stress here. His troubles became my troubles because I let them. I let his problems be my problems. And then I took it on myself to fix his problems. That was entirely my choice and it was the wrong choice.

I’ve put him back in the box he needs to be in. The boyfriend box.

I read this board a lot because DP still wants us to blend again and I’m often musing how that would work. Posts like this are good reminders of why it wouldn’t work.

Good luck OP. Let him be who he will be and put him in the right box in your life that he deserves to be in. Let yourself have the peace and grace you deserve.