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Stepdaughter and being nice

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stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 11:06

So after my last post I have come away and done some thinking and had seen my counsellor again.
Ultimately I know and have known it's not fully the step daughters fault.
Her mother has always been a nightmare, and tbh in lockdown we had calls from the daughter her mum was passed out etc. her dad is no saint when it comes to alcohol but is what it is and her mum was ultimately the one who made the decision to leave her at his house when he was drunk because I was there. Her mum always said she liked me compared to his other ex and didn't want me to end up like herself. She claims she is suffering from ptsd from being with him. Which at times I can see so have always taken things from her as quite truthful.
Anyways I know her house is always a mess; my son stayed there last year when me and him where on a break and he said it smelt and wasn't nice.
Yes I can be mad that she is using the situation with her dad to get everything she wants, but ultimately that is upto him and what he sees fit. Yesterday me and him went out and he was complaining that he had no money to spend on himself. I just kept quiet,
I invited them all for a bbq last night; the kids played in the pool and things, I was miffed as he was like 'well I need to ask them if they want to'. I am under the impression as they are kids they should be told, as that's what I do with my kids. I don't let them dictate if we do or don't do something or go somewhere but each to their own. My partner then has suggested we go to some field today for a picnic like we use to l, and because it's free and he can't afford to go out. So yeah fine; but then said to the eldest if she gets out of bed and comes then me and her can go and get our nails done. Hes kinda planned this without asking me, I will tell him he has to pay for mine as I cannot afford to do it today as wasn't planned. But I am thinking I will go and do it, I will be nice. I have invited her on days out in the summer holidays too with me and the kids because ultimately isn't her fault.
I do think I'll get a backlash from her mother but ultimately that isn't my fault because she allowed her daughter to move out.
This week she has gone into work with her mum for 3 days, they have been to Costa, and apparently she is staying there tomorrow because her mum wants her to try and stay for longer. So I am a little confused as she does say she doesn't know what she wants still but seems to be there a lot but will go with it.

My partner has told the daughter that he is meant to be coming on holiday with us and that he will decide fully soon and that if he does she will have to stay with her mum. (He's worded it like this as he said it's to do it nicely but has told my kids he won't let the down and he will be going.)

Ultimately it's upto him really how to make this all work; I have done my bit having them over, inviting her for summer, bought a bigger dining room table etc and will sort some sleeping arrangement. I made a point yesterday of asking us kids for photos to put up in my house is then etc all things he said he does at his and feels I need to do more at mine to be Inclusive and hopefully so we can all stay at each others houses. If this doesn't change things then it's on him.

Any advice on what I can say to her mum if she kicks off she is spending more time with me, also I wish to message her and ask her to refrain stirring the pot as she keeps telling my partner stuff we had spoke about in the past or things from work. She has completely stabbed me in the back when I haven't with things about her. Me and her were actually friends in the end. Then it all went tits up because back in March me and my partner split and I had said to her we were just good friends and things for the kids (which we was for a while) and never explained we were getting back together. As I didn't feel it was her business. Well he told her when she got argumentative as I had a go at the stepdaughter for lying as I caught her dangerously cooking with oil whilst her dad was at work. She's 12 and I was concerned and she was lying. I apologised to the stepdaughter but yeah

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whichfan · 27/07/2024 11:09

i really can’t make head nor tail of this

cupcaske123 · 27/07/2024 11:12

I'm not too sure what's going on but it seems as though you want advice on how to handle your step daughter's mum. You don't. Your partner handles his ex and the mother of his child.

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 11:50

@whichfan
My stepdaughter has moved into my partners house, it's been a turbulent few months bevwuse of it. I was trying to find ways to get her to leave but have now just embraced it and doing my best to make the best of the situation

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MacDonaldandHobNobs · 27/07/2024 12:27

As said at length on your last thread, this relationship is dead in the water.

It's not good for your children to be in the middle of this shit show. Have you sort help for the self harming? I really hope you've got some support for this.

Stop meddling in their family dynamic and focus on providing stability for your own children.

TheLastTimeEver · 27/07/2024 12:29

whichfan · 27/07/2024 11:09

i really can’t make head nor tail of this

Agreed. It’s just stream of consciousness stuff about a bbq?

Kitkat1523 · 27/07/2024 12:32

Gave up after a couple of sentences 🤷‍♀️

excelledyourself · 27/07/2024 13:12

Any advice on what I can say to her mum if she kicks off she is spending more time with me, also I wish to message her and ask her to refrain stirring the pot

Why would you message her anything, especially if you think there's the slightest chance things might improve between you and your boyfriend/his daughter? You'll set everything right back to square one.

He deals with the ex, not you.

Personally I'd walk away from it all, for your kids sake if not your own.

StormingNorman · 27/07/2024 13:18

I wouldn’t engage with the mum at all. It is for your partner to manage the co-parenting side of things.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 27/07/2024 13:42

In your other thread you were desperately trying to get the DSD out of her dad's house so he would spend more time with your children and be their dad.

Have you discussed with your therapist why this was so inappropriate?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/stepparenting/5123967-how-to-get-step-daughter-to-move-home

How to get step daughter to move home | Mumsnet

How can I convince my step daughter to move back to her mums. I am literally at my wits end, this has caused me to start self harming again as has tr...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/stepparenting/5123967-how-to-get-step-daughter-to-move-home

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 14:05

@MacDonaldandHobNobs yes I have discussed it, and ultimately hqve learnt if I force her then he may husr end things anyways so it's best the daughter to not be forced.

And it's not that ill message her it's if she messages me having a go at me I want to be able to respond as she is very much like that

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Dumdeedahdumdeedo · 27/07/2024 14:09

Honestly, you need help and you need to leave the relationship

I didnt even remember your username and knew straight away you were the poster from the other day

Go and get yourself assessed for autism and start learning how to support yourself. Your still so hyper focused on this little girl, her mum and your partner.

Leave and sort your life out

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 27/07/2024 14:11

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 14:05

@MacDonaldandHobNobs yes I have discussed it, and ultimately hqve learnt if I force her then he may husr end things anyways so it's best the daughter to not be forced.

And it's not that ill message her it's if she messages me having a go at me I want to be able to respond as she is very much like that

Think that you might have spectacularly missed the point. It's not IF you force her, it's that it's not your business to have a say in whether she lives with her dad or not. You don't live together, you have no say in their family home. I'm not sure you understand that. He is her dad, she needs to come first as his priority.

I'm not sure you're understanding boundaries which is why I suspect you've blurred yours so much with your children.

Honestly, you don't sound well every time you post. That's not being harsh, just you sound all over the place.

Please put your kids first and step back from this situation.

lunar1 · 27/07/2024 14:17

I've just realised which other thread is yours!

Regarding the holiday, your partner is the RP at the minute, if he can't come to an agreement with hid daughter and ex, then he can't go. He has a bigger responsibility to his dependent child, it isn't an option to just leave her.

whichfan · 27/07/2024 15:49

This poor child.

Having these parents and OP as a step parent

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 16:26

@lunar1 he has told her he is going x

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lunar1 · 27/07/2024 18:34

Is he taking her, given he's now her RP?

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 20:45

@lunar1
Nope he's told her she's going to her mums

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stepparentinghell · 29/07/2024 20:31

@lunar1
So she went back to her mums last night. Was meant to be staying a week, but they argued so
The daughter decided to go back to her dad's.

One of her nails came off so he asked me to take her to the salon which I did, and she said her mum has messaged saying they aren't doing soemtbinf they had planned now and that she doesn't want anything to do with her right now.

My partner rung the mum but she's very much blaming the SD attitude and saying it's her fault, and that she does treat her different to the younger sibling but doesn't see an issue.

He is asking for advice on how else to approach the mum now because he is desperate to get them talking again.

Is there also a way he can force child benefit to investigate her as she won't give up the UC and child benefit.

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GKD · 29/07/2024 20:57

stepparentinghell · 27/07/2024 11:50

@whichfan
My stepdaughter has moved into my partners house, it's been a turbulent few months bevwuse of it. I was trying to find ways to get her to leave but have now just embraced it and doing my best to make the best of the situation

What?

Dont you mean SD has moved into dad’s house?

What’s the problem with her living with her parents?

What’s wrong with you?

Notsandwiches · 30/07/2024 05:18

I would say to the mum "I know I'm not her mum. I'm not trying to replace you. I am with her dad however. Isn't it nice for (daughter's name) to have positive adults around her who have her best interests at heart?" That's it. It's not about the mum, or you, it's about the kid.

Spirallingdownwards · 30/07/2024 05:42

Notsandwiches · 30/07/2024 05:18

I would say to the mum "I know I'm not her mum. I'm not trying to replace you. I am with her dad however. Isn't it nice for (daughter's name) to have positive adults around her who have her best interests at heart?" That's it. It's not about the mum, or you, it's about the kid.

Unfortunately this does not appear to be the case though. OP wants rid of her!

newnamethanks · 30/07/2024 05:50

Poor kid.

StormingNorman · 30/07/2024 07:30

So when is your holiday and what’s the plan? Can the booking be amended so she can come with you?

lunar1 · 30/07/2024 07:31

It's clearly not a time for her to be ditched by here dad while he goes on holiday with someone else's kids. Either she needs adding to the holiday or he has to skip it.

socks1107 · 30/07/2024 07:38

You don't need to respond to her mum. If you do keep it short and sweet, no big emotional drama.
Your partner needs to rethink his holiday, a child needs her dad and a holiday will have to come second to that.

She isn't your step daughter, or the step daughter as you affectionately call her. She's your partner's daughter. Step well away from meddling in this and focus on your own children and therapy this summer.

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