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Don’t want stepson all the time

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Sky1248 · 17/03/2024 06:32

I want to see if I’m being unreasonable at all and all comments are greatly welcomed!

I have been with my partner for nearly 7 years and when I first met my step son he was just turning 2! He was always very clingy to his dad and I always tried which sometimes I loved having him and sometimes I dreaded it!

we now have a 3 year old and 9 month old together and sometimes I appreciate the times it’s just me my husband and my kids however my husband is saying he wants our stepson included in everything and wants to invite him to absolutely everything! Even my 30th meal I said don’t worry about inviting him as he’s quite rude to my family that were coming but my husband was adamant he wanted him to come.

i have no person issue with my step son I do find him a bit spoilt and he has such a better life with his mum always doing nice things so I don’t know why my husband always wants him with us.

am I unreasonable to say I sometimes want to do things without him and just our kids?

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gastontheeladybird · 17/03/2024 19:34

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 19:24

@Rabbiehdbek

the step kid isn’t anything to her?? What? He’s her step child, her husband’s child and of course he’s her family and therefore someone to her. You can’t be with someone and have children with them and their other children be no one to you. If the bio mum has more kids with another partner; then they aren’t family, but a step child by definition is.

i agree not great choice of wording. Her children are biological siblings with this boy. Me and my half-siblings look very alike (and I wouldn’t normally refer to them as half-siblings, just my siblings!) so it would feel weird if their mother, my step-mum, said that I ‘wasn’t anything to her’

Springtime43 · 17/03/2024 19:35

Sky1248 · 17/03/2024 06:38

Because his dad left early we have to compensate for that for rest of his life do you mean?

Yes. And due to Dad Guilt, step children are frequently given preference over other children. Any subsequent children are supposed to accept this, simply because their parents are still together. It’s the most divisive dynamic and sadly all too common in step families

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 19:46

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 19:24

@Rabbiehdbek

the step kid isn’t anything to her?? What? He’s her step child, her husband’s child and of course he’s her family and therefore someone to her. You can’t be with someone and have children with them and their other children be no one to you. If the bio mum has more kids with another partner; then they aren’t family, but a step child by definition is.

No they are not. Not in every case. They are someone that you have to have in your life through no choice. He’s someone who she has to see now and again and now isn’t even allowed her own birthday as she wishes.

Springtime43 · 17/03/2024 19:48

Simonandhalfuncle · 17/03/2024 10:32

YANBU but you will get a hard time on mumsnet. It’s boils my piss.

Your life doesn’t stop and shouldn’t be put on hold for DSS. Neither should your children’s.

Personally, I would stick to the agreed contact routine and if he’s there, fine. If he’s not there, that’s fine too. DSS would probably benefit from the routine to be honest.

You can’t treat all the children the same or there circumstances are hugely different. Fair and equal are not the same thing.

Very good advice

Livelovebehappy · 17/03/2024 19:54

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 19:46

No they are not. Not in every case. They are someone that you have to have in your life through no choice. He’s someone who she has to see now and again and now isn’t even allowed her own birthday as she wishes.

Edited

And yet we have had recently a step mum complaining that their dc isn’t invited to dps brother’s wedding, but dps children are. Step mums are up in arms about this. But the same argument could be made. The brother has no connection with his brothers step child, so why is this situation any different, if what you’re saying is that the dss is nothing to the step mum? Honestly, I despair at the lack of some mumsnetter’s moral compass. We’re talking about a child, who people on here are demonising. It’s awful.

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 19:56

ThoughtsonthisPlease · 17/03/2024 19:01

The father is looking out for his son ffs.

See this is just pure hyperbole? Looking out for his son? Its lunch not his last will and testament.

fleurneige · 17/03/2024 19:57

MississippiAF · 17/03/2024 18:53

Family events yes - their stepmothers birthday, no - not if she doesn’t want them.

Well yes, I can see that. But do you expect dad to pretend said birthday is not happening- so he doesn't have to tell kid he is not invited or welcome. 3 year old will probably blab- how will sk feel?

MississippiAF · 17/03/2024 20:00

fleurneige · 17/03/2024 19:57

Well yes, I can see that. But do you expect dad to pretend said birthday is not happening- so he doesn't have to tell kid he is not invited or welcome. 3 year old will probably blab- how will sk feel?

Just have the celebrations on the weekend they are with their other parent; simple. We did it for many years. Doesn’t need to be talked about. My DSC were so self-absorbed they would never have thought to ask about anyone else’s birthdays anyway

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 20:01

MississippiAF · 17/03/2024 20:00

Just have the celebrations on the weekend they are with their other parent; simple. We did it for many years. Doesn’t need to be talked about. My DSC were so self-absorbed they would never have thought to ask about anyone else’s birthdays anyway

Edited

That’s what OP has tried to achieve and I totally agree.

It’s not excluding them at all.

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 20:14

@Rabbiehdbek of course having a step child is a choice, her DH didn’t keep him a secret until they had their own children did he? When you choose to be with a man who has children you are choosing for those children to be part of your family. It’s a take it or leave it thing. It doesn’t mean you tolerate crap or don’t have any feelings about it, as I said before she can feel anyway she likes about him, it’s how she behaves toward him that matters. Most stepmums are complaining because their DH leaves them to do the parenting but in this case it’s almost the polar opposite.

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 20:16

Livelovebehappy · 17/03/2024 19:54

And yet we have had recently a step mum complaining that their dc isn’t invited to dps brother’s wedding, but dps children are. Step mums are up in arms about this. But the same argument could be made. The brother has no connection with his brothers step child, so why is this situation any different, if what you’re saying is that the dss is nothing to the step mum? Honestly, I despair at the lack of some mumsnetter’s moral compass. We’re talking about a child, who people on here are demonising. It’s awful.

I never said it was… the BIL shouldn’t have to invite the step child as she’s not his family.

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 20:21

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 20:14

@Rabbiehdbek of course having a step child is a choice, her DH didn’t keep him a secret until they had their own children did he? When you choose to be with a man who has children you are choosing for those children to be part of your family. It’s a take it or leave it thing. It doesn’t mean you tolerate crap or don’t have any feelings about it, as I said before she can feel anyway she likes about him, it’s how she behaves toward him that matters. Most stepmums are complaining because their DH leaves them to do the parenting but in this case it’s almost the polar opposite.

They are a part of your life. Not the step mums family. My family is my kids & DH, not my dsd, she’s my DH family.

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 20:45

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 20:14

@Rabbiehdbek of course having a step child is a choice, her DH didn’t keep him a secret until they had their own children did he? When you choose to be with a man who has children you are choosing for those children to be part of your family. It’s a take it or leave it thing. It doesn’t mean you tolerate crap or don’t have any feelings about it, as I said before she can feel anyway she likes about him, it’s how she behaves toward him that matters. Most stepmums are complaining because their DH leaves them to do the parenting but in this case it’s almost the polar opposite.

Things evolve though.

My DSS evolved into an a-hole. If I’d have had a crystal ball I wouldn’t have got involved but it was several years down the line when he turned.

His mother and father struggle with him too but they are bound by biological ties and I (thank god) am not.

Woodenwonder · 17/03/2024 20:51

If step mum bashing is pointing out that OP is treating her DSS as a cuckoo in what should be his own nest with his dad and his half siblings then I’m proud to be one.

step mums who are jealous of their partners children are weirdos IMO that is your children’s half brother. Love him for that if nothing else. Because you could easily lose the man but their sibling will likely always be a feature of their life.

ThoughtsonthisPlease · 17/03/2024 20:53

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 19:56

See this is just pure hyperbole? Looking out for his son? Its lunch not his last will and testament.

Your comment makes no sense. Surely if it was related to his last will and testament it would be rather more than simply looking out for him?

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 20:54

@Rabbiehdbek so your aunts or uncles who married into your family aren’t family? Me getting married to my husband made my DSS my family. He already was to me anyway, but that’s unequivocal.

The only people who can apply for parental responsibility for a child aside from the birth parents are grandparents and step parents. There’s a reason for that.

LimeAnkles · 17/03/2024 20:55

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 18:51

Why does it matter if her kids are babies. Being a baby doesn’t mean they should get less time with their dad!

And you can still have a conversation with a 3 year old!

The only child in this scenario getting less time with their father is the OP's stepson.

This situation is not the boys fault. He is not at their house all the time. Cica. 80 hrs per fortnight.
The father is quite rightly being present in his life.

And I never said you couldn't have a conversation with a 3yr old. I manage it most days with my granddaughter. But the type of conversations/interactions you have with a 3yr old and a 9yr old are quite different.

But I forgot, all custody sharing fathers remembering their commitments and showing an interest in their kids lives, are arseholes!

webster1987 · 17/03/2024 21:11

Sky1248 · 17/03/2024 07:03

He takes him to his football training Friday evenings, any matches on a Saturday and Sunday on his weekends so our other child don’t much time at all so the weekends we don’t have him I like it to be our kids so they can have attention

How did you anticipate him sharing his time between all three children when you decided to have not one but two children with this man? So every other weekend he has entirely with you and your two DC. Whilst I empathise, as a SM myself, that it can be a tension sometimes and not always easy, I can't help but think there hasn't been much future thinking when planing 'your' family

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 21:19

ThoughtsonthisPlease · 17/03/2024 20:53

Your comment makes no sense. Surely if it was related to his last will and testament it would be rather more than simply looking out for him?

I don’t agree that insisting he goes for lunch is “looking out for him” rather I think it’s pretty irrelevant for a 9 year old.

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 21:26

LimeAnkles · 17/03/2024 20:55

The only child in this scenario getting less time with their father is the OP's stepson.

This situation is not the boys fault. He is not at their house all the time. Cica. 80 hrs per fortnight.
The father is quite rightly being present in his life.

And I never said you couldn't have a conversation with a 3yr old. I manage it most days with my granddaughter. But the type of conversations/interactions you have with a 3yr old and a 9yr old are quite different.

But I forgot, all custody sharing fathers remembering their commitments and showing an interest in their kids lives, are arseholes!

The stepson isn’t getting less time though is.. as another poster pointed out before

*Child one gets dedicated face times, one to one time at football training, dad taking just him to matches on Saturday and Sunday. And when you think child one is in FTE 5 days out of 7, that's a lot of dedicated time when you are one of three children to be considered.

The other children don't get one to one dedicated time with dad. But apparently that's ok because his bedroom is in the same house as theirs*

Thats good then so you must realise that you can have just as long as a conversation with a 3 year old that you can with a 9 year old! Doesn’t matter if it’s different.

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 21:28

Haveyouanyjam · 17/03/2024 20:54

@Rabbiehdbek so your aunts or uncles who married into your family aren’t family? Me getting married to my husband made my DSS my family. He already was to me anyway, but that’s unequivocal.

The only people who can apply for parental responsibility for a child aside from the birth parents are grandparents and step parents. There’s a reason for that.

Getting married to someone is different to a step child. It’s not even comparable. You don’t marry your step child or make a commitment to them. They are just there.

DaoineSidhe · 17/03/2024 21:38

ClutchingOurBananas · 17/03/2024 11:29

Actually, what I’m doing is not validation. It’s just not grabbing a pitchfork and burning the witch - as almost everyone else is desperate to do.

What I’m doing is looking at what she’s writing and wondering what is driving this. I suggested that the OP thinks about what is actually going on, and have said several
times the problem is unlikely to be the the SS. Are you just upset that I haven’t decided to kick her when she’s down?

Maybe if more people were curious about why she feels she and her children are second best (rather than calling her names), she’d actually get some usable advice. That’s not ‘validation’ - it’s just not rushing to judge.

Or is it that I’ve suggested that her husband doesn’t sound like some heroically great dad because he manages to take an interest in one of his children? I find sometimes on MN posters really don’t like it if you expect more than the most minimal standards for men.

I'd reserve the word upset for yourself, because whilst I understand your point, the route you have chosen as an alternative explanation to her 'angst' is very dogmatic and with your response here it is now very clearly projection. A bit of objectivity goes a long way.

Lookingatthesunset · 17/03/2024 21:40

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 21:28

Getting married to someone is different to a step child. It’s not even comparable. You don’t marry your step child or make a commitment to them. They are just there.

You've married someone who does have a commitment to a child...

fleurneige · 17/03/2024 21:45

Rabbiehdbek · 17/03/2024 21:28

Getting married to someone is different to a step child. It’s not even comparable. You don’t marry your step child or make a commitment to them. They are just there.

wow - now that is 100% very unpleasant :(

yes, you DO make a commitment by marrying their dad.

ThoughtsonthisPlease · 17/03/2024 21:49

TheDarkHouse · 17/03/2024 21:19

I don’t agree that insisting he goes for lunch is “looking out for him” rather I think it’s pretty irrelevant for a 9 year old.

The best way to ascertain that would be to invite him.