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What to expect from a bitter ex who won't let her man move on and is using the kids to do so?

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maya85 · 30/08/2022 17:01

I'll try and keep this to the point, as a lot happened and I need some advice on how to go about this. I've been with my man for 9 months now. He was a single father to a 8 year old girl when I met him. He is the man of my dreams. Unfortunately, he got his ex pregnant by mistake during a drunken one-night stand for the 2nd time (before we met) and she insisted on keeping it. I was OK with his situation because he’s a great guy, treats me so well and I'm 38 and not too bothered about having kids of my own (he is 35). Prior to the one-night-stand he had been broken up with her for over a year. She put him through hell, cheated on him, dragged him through court for access to his daughter, called the police on him for things he didn't do and so on. He's always been far too nice for his own good and decided to forgive her and stay friends with her for the sake of his daughter after a court custody agreement had been reached. This friendship led them to hook up one drunken night. He received a call about 6 weeks later from her informing him that he was going to be a dad again.

So, after 3 months of dating, she found out about me and went into a jealous frenzy. She stopped giving him access to his daughter and it caused a lot of problems, as the girl is very attached to her father. Over a period of almost a month, every time he went to pick her up she would stand in the door way and force her daughter back into the house and lock the door whilst screaming abuse at him in the street for all to hear. She’d tell him how pathetic he was, bring up the past etc etc and create arguments from nothing. She made him choose between having access to his daughter and having me in his life. Needless to say, this made him hate her again and was the cause of him choosing to no longer be friends. She realised later that this wasn't in her favour, as she was pregnant.

It was clear that she had hoped/expected that he would leave me and choose to prioritise her by moving back in with her to offer support with the pregnancy, birth and baby and my presence in his life had clearly ruined her plans, especially as she saw that we were getting serious as her pregnancy flew by. She trapped him into a relationship with his first child by going off her pills without telling him after he told her he wanted to break up. She believed that keeping the 2nd baby would reel him back in with guilt too, like the first time, but it didn’t happen and she’s now ANGRY that she's doing this alone. She put him through a toxic cycle of abuse before he left her when the first baby was a few months old and he had a long, stressful and expensive battle in court for visitation rights as punishment.

Since the court order agreement (when his daughter was 4), his daughter has spent a lot of time with us and she loves being with us as we provide her with a very loving, stable and healthy family environment and her mother hates this when she hears about it. We know this because recently she cries in the car when he picks her up and tells her dad that her mum is horrible to her when she talks positively about us. Her mum forces her to talk about everything she does with us after she's dropped off and tells her that I’m lying when I tell her I love her, that I want to steal her dad from her, not to listen to me etc etc. She’s a very traumatised and sad child who is made to feel guilty by her mother for being happy with us and for being happy that her father has moved on with a woman she loves too. I don’t act like her mother when we have her and I tell her that she has a mum and I’m not trying to take her place and she always replies with “I know but I wish you were my mummy, my real mummy is horrible to me and daddy”.

During the pregnancy he asked her for a DNA test to prove the child was his (she was livid) and informed her that he won’t be doing anything for the baby until it’s proven the child is his. He stopped being Mr. Nice Guy to her when she showed her nasty side again after she found out about me, so he didn’t go with her to scans, the birth or to her house afterwards to support her with the baby. She agreed to do a paternity test about 10 days after the child was born and it turned out the baby is his. Since then she has been playing mind games, sometimes she will let him briefly see the child when he picks up/drops off the other one and at other times she won’t at all. It’s almost as if she’s bipolar, very nice one week and horrible the next. The baby is a month old now, she’s put him on the birth certificate, as he told her he wants to be involved in his child’s life, but she has not demanded any child maintenance (during the pregnancy she kept going on and on about how much he was going to pay her) and after the birth she was silent. She didn’t give him a say in the baby’s first or last name (she chose a different last name to his). She has also chosen to breastfeed this baby to prolong his rights to access and continues to poison her child’s mind against me.

He’s very formal with her in communication, they only talk about the kids as he has placed a boundary with her where she’s unable to talk about anything else with him, which is good and I know that even if she did try or want to have him back he wouldn’t allow that. There is no insecurity or feeling threatened by her, so that’s not the issue. The issue is how to deal with the daughter situation of her being brainwashed by her mum and what is she playing at with the baby? What could we expect from her behaviour in the future? Why do some mums act this way? I would have expected that she milk him for money and physical support with the baby, but it’s the opposite. Why demand him to claim his child and nag for months for money and support only to go silent afterwards? I feel that it’s finally sunk in with her (after the baby was born) that I’m not going anywhere and that me and him are long term, but what’s the worst she could do? I know she was hoping I’d run for the hills and be heartbroken after finding out the baby is his, but I'm fine and have no intention on doing so and I think this has put her in a new dilemma. I just want to know what I need to potentially prepare for.

Thank you so much for reading all this!

OP posts:
Crimeismymiddlename · 30/08/2022 19:11

He is spinning you lies. She might well be a
dick but he just happened to get her accidentally pregnant twice. The classic you thinking he is too nice for his own good while not paying child support for his child and you thinking breast feeding is a dirty ploy to get at him. If he is
so worried about his children in her care why has he not gone back to court, well it is much easier to talk about how worried you are to look good than actually do something about it.
If he was a good parent you would have only just met the oldest.
At 38 you should be able to see through this nonsense.

TheodoraPlumptre · 30/08/2022 19:14

He is the man of my dreams. Unfortunately, he got his ex pregnant by mistake during a drunken one-night stand for the 2nd time (before we met) and she insisted on keeping it

If this is the man of your dreams, I wouldn't like to meet the man of your nightmares.

Madamecastafiore · 30/08/2022 19:20

If she is unhinged (which I very much doubt she is) your DP is a proper creepy fucker for taking advantage and having a sexual relationship with her.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 30/08/2022 19:21

Sadly I suspect op will be carrying his dc 3 before long...

DuchessDarty · 30/08/2022 19:24

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 30/08/2022 19:21

Sadly I suspect op will be carrying his dc 3 before long...

...giving birth to new thread opportunities

paisley256 · 30/08/2022 19:40

Goodness, so many crazy exes trapping these poor, vulnerable, princes among men. The poor lambs.

Yep

SunnyD44 · 30/08/2022 19:41

If this is the man of your dreams, I wouldn't like to meet the man of your nightmares.

😂😂😂

Fifife · 30/08/2022 21:15

This all sounds bullshit that he's fed you, He's had two kids with this woman how can he have been trapped 2 times? He's obviously been with her all along until you came on the scene. You need to leave she was left pregnant with no support forced to go for scans and birth alone because you insisted the baby wasn't his. Of course she's angry and doesn't want you both to access to her new baby. He's a horrible man and you aren't a nice person either.

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 30/08/2022 23:02

And I thought had severely questionable judgment with men in the past... Christ on a 🚲

Aren't the timelines not a tad suspicious, no penis can be good enough to accept this absolute fire dumpster of a relationship.

The poor mum must be uber jealous of you and Freddy Krueger version of a Ken doll 😭

Anyone else feeling really sorry for mum here ?

Pinkyxx · 30/08/2022 23:05

Never ceases to amaze me what people will believe... Very much sounds like the poor 8 year has been subjected to some very serious brainwashing by her Father to be suggesting she wants a virtual stranger to be her mother. Women breast feed purely to frustrate access... sure, that's the only reason to BF.... obviously. Women should of course also beg and plead for child maintenance... I feel desperately sorry for this poor woman and her children.

SudocremOnEverything · 30/08/2022 23:16

Anyone else feeling really sorry for mum here ?

just about everyone, I think.

Skelligsfeathers · 31/08/2022 06:17

I can't belive what i am reading to be honest. How can a woman of 38 be so completely naive?

tsttst · 31/08/2022 07:06

This is his VERSION of the truth .

Did you see it or hear it first hand ?

Would any man describe his EX as anything other than "crazy, difficult, evil ...?"
Would any man describe his EX as "the most amazing woman ever and that is why I fell in love with her and married her, and had children with her, and stuck with her for all this time...."

tsttst · 31/08/2022 07:11

You won't hear him say " I really hate this crazy woman so much that my little pecker got a HARD ON and I just had to go sleep with her again (and get her pregnant)...the gun was not held to my head but my penis was...but I hate this woman especially when I came !"

DebussytoaDiscoBeat · 31/08/2022 13:01

What a load of old tosh. This is either someone on the wind-up trying to reinforce the evil SM/new partner stereotype or OP is one of the most gullible people I have ever seen.

Ithinkthatisenoughnowthanks · 31/08/2022 13:18

I call bullshit - all of it. You can't put someone you're not married to on a birth certificate. That's not how it works. So you didn't do your research there, did you OP?

And for removal of doubt on breastfeeding: the WHO recommends breastfeeding for 2 years and whilst some of that is down to circumstances in much of the world re: not having the facilities to manage formula safely, it is still a recommendation that is very much useable in court if you start to suggest 'she is only doing it to deny him access'.

He should pay maintenance from the day the child is born. Not wait to be asked. She'll use that against him in (your ficticious) court.

He's a prize twonk. You're really no better. Careful what you wish for, OP. We tend to get what we deserve, I think.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 31/08/2022 13:40

Unless they are actually married? And he forgot to mention it op.? Then she could put him on the bc alone...

beachcitygirl · 31/08/2022 14:18

I do NOT believe your version of events whatsoever.

Poor woman. Poor children.

Ithinkthatisenoughnowthanks · 31/08/2022 15:14

Unless they are actually married? And he forgot to mention it op.?

hmmm, of course! That could well be the case….

newbiename · 31/08/2022 15:48

Any comments @maya85

TattoedLady · 31/08/2022 18:38

I just want to know what I need to potentially prepare for.

Well, all the other red flags aside, if your man and his ex have a one month old child together then I think you need to prepare yourself for the potential that he was diddling two women at the same time. 🚩🚩🚩

This man and his ex have 8 years of history together, were together for 7 years, "broke up" a year before he met you (or did they 🧐) and you're now caught up in a toxic triangulation situation that will result in two very messed up children. Prepare to leave...and don't get pregnant!

TryingToBeLogical · 31/08/2022 20:07

OP, run

Anyone who has drunk and unprotected sex with their ex-wife is not someone you want in your life. No way nope Not a trustworthy person going forward

He needs to focus on his kids right now and not a new partner. There are so many red flags here it’s basically a fabric factory.

People who are spiraling the drain like to take other people down with them because misery loves company. Don’t let it be you

TryingToBeLogical · 31/08/2022 20:21

OP also

If by chance you’re worried you won’t find someone better or it’s your last chance, etc. etc., I assure you that you will and that it’s not. Manipulative people know to pick on those with low self-esteem and anxiety. If you’ve been raised by mostly honest people, you won’t be prepared when you meet someone who is lying and manipulative as this man appears to be. Don’t feel sorry for him. Do you want to spend the rest of your life worrying whether he’s treating you like he treats this ex? Or whether they might get back together a third time for another drunken pregnancy?

Do whatever you have to do to detach, even if you just set yourself a goal such as, I’ll cut contact and stay out of it for two months. Pick up whatever obsessions you need to get your mind off of it. New hobby, binge watching TV, travel, more work, whatever. You’ll be amazed how much more clearly you will see the situation when you’ve been out of the swamp for a couple of months.

SpaceshiptoMars · 31/08/2022 20:34

@maya85

If you are 38 and you don't want children, you really don't need to settle. The situation you describe is untenable unless you love, love, love drama and misery. Plenty of men are available, with or without children, if you're not pressuring them to reproduce! But next time, take a longer look before jumping in headfirst?

excelledyourself · 01/09/2022 14:57

Ithinkthatisenoughnowthanks · 31/08/2022 13:18

I call bullshit - all of it. You can't put someone you're not married to on a birth certificate. That's not how it works. So you didn't do your research there, did you OP?

And for removal of doubt on breastfeeding: the WHO recommends breastfeeding for 2 years and whilst some of that is down to circumstances in much of the world re: not having the facilities to manage formula safely, it is still a recommendation that is very much useable in court if you start to suggest 'she is only doing it to deny him access'.

He should pay maintenance from the day the child is born. Not wait to be asked. She'll use that against him in (your ficticious) court.

He's a prize twonk. You're really no better. Careful what you wish for, OP. We tend to get what we deserve, I think.

Since when? I'm not married and my ex's name is on the birth certificate.

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