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Why is being a step mum harder than stepdad?

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thatsnotmydog · 14/06/2022 18:25

So statistically and anecdotally being a step mum is so much harder than being a step dad, why do you think that is?

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User39498 · 14/06/2022 23:35

@FishcakesWithTooMuchCoriander Sorry my post before last wasn’t clear, I was agreeing with you, but pointing out to @BiscoffSundae you can’t compare fathers to step mothers because step mothers have no control whereas fathers do, your second paragraph in the post summarised it well...

Reallyreallyborednow · 14/06/2022 23:35

*As this response shows… poor NR fathers.

Life has just happened to them and they made no decisions that led them to this situation*

because relationship breakdown is always the man’s fault?

and women are happy to share custody and barely see their kids?

steppingout · 14/06/2022 23:37

I'd agree with many here that the expectations are different for women - and that there's a difficult tension between being expected to love a stepchild like they're your own and make endless sacrifices because that's what good mums do, and on the other hand getting 'you're not their mum, don't overstep' any time someone thinks you're over involved. We have DSD most of the time which means I've formed a strong relationship with her - I can only imagine how much harder it would have been to find a balance berween those two if she was only here EOW.

FeelingLost21 · 14/06/2022 23:52

In my experience it is because often (not always!) the child reside with the Mum and the SD is involved more in the upbringing. SM aren't so much.

In my situation the SD stepped into a vacant Dad role. Has brought them up as his own. It is a role that should never have been available but their Dad is rubbish. No support at all in any way.

Whereas my step Daughter has a mum, and a dad. There isn't a space for me to step into. I don't get a say in her upbringing, what school she goes to etc etc. Very hard

SandyY2K · 15/06/2022 01:27

Well...unless a stepdad, or all stepdads tell you it's easier, how can you really say being a stepmum IS easier.

Easier, is subjective as well. Many stepdads take on the financial burden of stepkids and the mum stays home with no job....while another man supports her kids.

I find stepmums seem to be more jealous, complain more, see themselves as better than the mum and are more controlling over a lot, which just causes them stress.

There is so much insecurity with second wife syndrome and the regret of not experiencing the 'firsts' that many (not all) stepmums have. There seems to be this fear that he'll go back to her, or the Ex wants him back. Women need to be wiser in choosing a man who isn't a lazy so and so looking for a replacement mum for his kids.

Women assume caregiving responsibilities, even without the societal expectations and then it backfires, when they have enough of being taken advantage of. We can't ignore the fact some single dads just want a woman to help them out, or parent their kids. Women fall for this...I'm not sure if it's out of a bit of desperation.. then they have so much regret, that the Ex is ever present.

FishcakesWithTooMuchCoriander · 15/06/2022 07:14

User39498 · 14/06/2022 23:30

@FishcakesWithTooMuchCoriander why are we assuming men earn the money?

A little disappointing that on mumsnet, a website for mums, we assume a women (not a mother, a stepmother, so wouldn’t be on maternity for DSC etc) couldn’t possibly earn more than a man...

I was asked specifically to comment on the claim that it’s so much harder for men because they pay for everything and have to live with the kids most of the time. I’d
already said that, if you look at threads on here, most SMs work (and often are paying for the SC). It wasn’t me who assumed that mothers just don’t earn money. I work. All my friends do.

So, given the ‘being the breadwinner and paying for other people’s kids is so hard’ argument, I was saying that’s unlikely to be harder. Because patriarchy.

YesitsJacqueline · 15/06/2022 07:16

Because its harder to be a woman than a man , full stop.

FishcakesWithTooMuchCoriander · 15/06/2022 07:17

SandyY2K · 15/06/2022 01:27

Well...unless a stepdad, or all stepdads tell you it's easier, how can you really say being a stepmum IS easier.

Easier, is subjective as well. Many stepdads take on the financial burden of stepkids and the mum stays home with no job....while another man supports her kids.

I find stepmums seem to be more jealous, complain more, see themselves as better than the mum and are more controlling over a lot, which just causes them stress.

There is so much insecurity with second wife syndrome and the regret of not experiencing the 'firsts' that many (not all) stepmums have. There seems to be this fear that he'll go back to her, or the Ex wants him back. Women need to be wiser in choosing a man who isn't a lazy so and so looking for a replacement mum for his kids.

Women assume caregiving responsibilities, even without the societal expectations and then it backfires, when they have enough of being taken advantage of. We can't ignore the fact some single dads just want a woman to help them out, or parent their kids. Women fall for this...I'm not sure if it's out of a bit of desperation.. then they have so much regret, that the Ex is ever present.

Oh yes. It’s all because SMs are bitter, jealous women who should have known better. And who are controlling if they want any say in anything in their lives.

Moonface123 · 15/06/2022 07:32

I am surprised that so many women are still willing to take on this role.
I definitely wouldn't, neither would l choose to bring another man in to step parent mine, all it does is create more problems.

BaaCake · 15/06/2022 07:38

Less expectations of men when it comes to parenting generally. With the added evil stepmother trope.

WhatsErFace2020 · 15/06/2022 08:15

I always thought (and was told by many many female friends constantly) what an amazing step dad my DH is to my DDs. When younger he would take time off work If they were ill, take them To appointments, do all the fun stuff, Emotional support and has financially contributed x100 of their actual dad.

But, 4 years into having our own DC, I see that actually while he is so much better than my exdh, I’m still the number one parent he defers to for everything- absolutely incapable of any mental load, I know for a fact if we split up his next partner would be expected to take on that role - poor gal!

TLDR: Even the best men defer as much responsibility to women as they possibly can...

toomuchlaundry · 15/06/2022 08:23

@WhatsErFace2020 but what your DH did for your DDs seems to be the things stepmums are told not to do and that it is the parents responsibility to do

SpaceshiptoMars · 15/06/2022 08:28

@SandyY2K

I find stepmums seem to be more jealous, complain more, see themselves as better than the mum and are more controlling over a lot, which just causes them stress.

But you only see a tiny subset of stepmums, don't you? You don't see the ones who are coping fine. And you've never walked a mile in any of their shoes. I wonder if your clients realize just how much you despise them.

Fizbosshoes · 15/06/2022 08:31

Because women are judged more harshly for just about everything but especially motherhood.

Mum goes back to work when her baby is 6 months old - judged harshly, told she'll miss out on lots of stuff, asked why she had children if she doesn't want to raise them etc
Dad goes back to work after 6 days - not worthy of comment.

Mum stays at home to look after child, takes them to the park or to toddler group - she's "doing nothing" relying on someone else, putting herself in a vulnerable position, not contributing to society.
Dad stays at home to look after child, takes them to the park or to toddler group - he's virtually superman 🙄

Cazzawazzawoowootoo · 15/06/2022 08:32

Renniesfixeverything · 14/06/2022 18:45

Because expectations of women are a million times higher than of men, especially where parenting (of any sort) is concerned.

This

aSofaNearYou · 15/06/2022 08:48

toomuchlaundry · 14/06/2022 22:57

But @FishcakesWithTooMuchCoriander we are not looking at one blended family and asking whether the stepdad or stepmum has it harder in that family. In the single mum situation with no input from dad, I would say a stepdad who takes on those stepkids, especially if he is the higher earner is having it quite hard. Paying and housing children that aren’t his and never having a break from them

And that's an obvious thing to say no to if you don't happen to be the kind of person that doesn't mind all that. Becoming partner to an EOW is much vaguer and it's much easier to get involved without fully realising what the consequences are going to be.

toomuchlaundry · 15/06/2022 08:51

@aSofaNearYou but do you not see how the dad is with his kids before becoming a fully committed stepmum, or do many of these men then change as soon as there is a new ‘mum’ to do parenting?

ReachersAbs · 15/06/2022 08:53

SandyY2K · 15/06/2022 01:27

Well...unless a stepdad, or all stepdads tell you it's easier, how can you really say being a stepmum IS easier.

Easier, is subjective as well. Many stepdads take on the financial burden of stepkids and the mum stays home with no job....while another man supports her kids.

I find stepmums seem to be more jealous, complain more, see themselves as better than the mum and are more controlling over a lot, which just causes them stress.

There is so much insecurity with second wife syndrome and the regret of not experiencing the 'firsts' that many (not all) stepmums have. There seems to be this fear that he'll go back to her, or the Ex wants him back. Women need to be wiser in choosing a man who isn't a lazy so and so looking for a replacement mum for his kids.

Women assume caregiving responsibilities, even without the societal expectations and then it backfires, when they have enough of being taken advantage of. We can't ignore the fact some single dads just want a woman to help them out, or parent their kids. Women fall for this...I'm not sure if it's out of a bit of desperation.. then they have so much regret, that the Ex is ever present.

Its this sort of bollocks that makes being a step mum hard not the actual step parenting.

aSofaNearYou · 15/06/2022 09:00

toomuchlaundry · 15/06/2022 08:51

@aSofaNearYou but do you not see how the dad is with his kids before becoming a fully committed stepmum, or do many of these men then change as soon as there is a new ‘mum’ to do parenting?

Yes many of them do change, and many of the expectations evolve/complications arise unexpectedly over time. If you knew from the offset as a SD you be the provider you would know to opt in or out accordingly. It's much more up front and easy to predict.

funinthesun19 · 15/06/2022 11:06

I find stepmums seem to be more jealous, complain more, see themselves as better than the mum and are more controlling over a lot, which just causes them stress.

Stepmums have a lot more stupid petty things to contend with which probably end up making them controlling and dislike the mum. Do you think stepdads get told by their wife’s ex that their children can’t have an ice cream without the step kids being there? I highly fucking doubt it.

funinthesun19 · 15/06/2022 11:14

Stepdads also don’t get childcare and school run requests from the ex. I saw a thread on here not so long ago where the stepmum was ill and the ex wanted her help.
can you imagine if the dad requested help from the stepdad in any circumstance? I imagine the mum would have something to say about that.

funinthesun19 · 15/06/2022 11:16

Pressed too soon.
The stepdad only has his own household to think about and run. Whereas the stepmum is expected to consider and think about the mum’s household too.

fruitbrewhaha · 15/06/2022 11:17

Hotcuppatea · 14/06/2022 18:52

Because of misogyny.

This. Because it's harder being a woman then it is being a man.

Huz · 15/06/2022 11:35

Reallyreallyborednow · 14/06/2022 18:33

Generally because a step dad lives with the child.

it is far easier to set boundaries and form a good relationship if you see the child everyday, have a routine, know where you stand.

if you see a child for one day eow you cannot build that relationship. So you’re effectively expected to parent a child you don’t know.

that and the fact women are expected to take on more of a caring role than men.

This is exactly why I hate being a step mum. I don't hate the child but I don't like the situation at all

KylieKoKo · 15/06/2022 12:13

I don't this is just a step-mum/step-dad issue.

Have you not noticed that dads are praised for doing the bare minimum whereas mums are judged much more harshly? A friend of mine has a baby and people always comment on how hands on he is and how often he changes the nappies etc. and how great he is for doing it, whereas for women it is just expected that they will do these things. Step-mums are held to a much higher standard than step-dads and are judged much more harshly if they don't in the same way.

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