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How do I as a new 'step-mum' support myself and partner?

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LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:14

Hi all,

Am totally new here so not yet familiar with all the abbreviations and lingo here, please bear with me! Would really appreciate some advice from anyone that's experienced similar or knows what I'm talking about.

My partner and I have been together less than a year and live together and he has two children from his previous marriage. I'm mid-30s and he is early 40s. He has custody of his kids for just two weekends each month, so not very much time at all which I know makes him sad.

His ex unfortunately is not a nice person and seems preoccupied with being as disruptive as possible at all times, whether he has the children or not. Since he and I got together and especially since moving in together, she's become a lot worse and this often plays out through her coming up with ways to disrupt the time that he does have with them.

This is very upsetting and frustrating for him, I can see he gets visibly upset and angry and this often results in an argument between him and her (which undoubtedly is what she wants to achieve!).

I am totally new to all of this. Although we are not married so I'm not officially a step-mother, I am in that parental role when we have the children to stay with us and I try my best to make their time enjoyable with activities they like and make an effort to get to know them. I'm mindful of the short time that my partner does have with them, so I do what I can to take on the boring day-to-day stuff like cooking and cleaning/tidying up so he can spend quality time with them. This often means that I feel those weekends for me are just house work!

He does say thank you and I think he does appreciate it, however I am all about things being 50/50 in a relationship and as great as it is that he acknowledges my effort, I want him to then take on his share of the housework for the times when it is just the 2 of us, so it balances out again.

I try my best to support him with the fallout from the awful dynamic between him and his ex, but the negativity of it is affecting my own wellbeing and mental wellness. The level of contact from her seems relentless and far too frequent given that he only has them for four nights each month really. It's like she's a constant background feature in our daily lives and that makes me feel uneasy and sometimes actually anxious. This coupled with the resentment I feel over unfair chore undertaking is making me feel pretty pissed off tbh! I tried to speak to him about this but it's resulted in ugly shouting matches :(

I would be interested in hearing anyone's experiences around any of this as I feel a bit overwhelmed!

Thanks x

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pastypirate · 20/01/2022 13:16

Less than a year?

QuirkyTurtle · 20/01/2022 13:21

It's 2022, not being married makes you as much a stepmother as being married!

How old are these kids? It sounds like you have a kind heart and the best intentions, but these situations are often so fraught, and if you are feeling like this during the honeymoon period, I have to warn you it won't necessarily get easier...

LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:24

The children are under 10.
Would very much appreciate some constructive ideas :)

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Theunamedcat · 20/01/2022 13:25

He doesn't have custody he has visitation it's been less than a year you shouldn't be taking on a parent role he hardly sees his children he should be parenting

Theunamedcat · 20/01/2022 13:28

Also, he shouts at you if you try to discuss something with him? Leave he is a shit partner and father he shouts at her he shouts at you how long is it going to be before the kids get an earful or have they learned not to question daddy's rules

QuirkyTurtle · 20/01/2022 13:28

Perhaps you could agree to one day per week, during the workweek, that your SO takes care of all household duties? Cleaning, cooking, everything. That way you would have that afternoon/evening after work to yourself.

Not sure if that is a good suggestion but I've not really come across this issue myself! I think you are 100% correct in expecting things to be equal in your relationship.

AllGoodPoints · 20/01/2022 13:28

Ugly shouting matches?
Walk away.
It sounds like he’s using you as an unpaid housekeeper.

LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:30

Thanks @QuirkyTurtle that's a good idea I will definitely consider it :) Appreciate your message x

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TreacleMoon2 · 20/01/2022 13:30

Seriously, this is highly unlikely to get any better.

For your own mental health it may be better to walk away.

Greenmarmalade · 20/01/2022 13:30

Don’t do more housework than him those weekends. He can just do his later on. He’ll just start to take it for granted. I have 4 kids and you just have to do housework whilst spending time with them- and so should he.

If you’re feeling anxious, and he’s not really listening to you properly, really consider whether he’s a decent partner for you.

Toomuch2do · 20/01/2022 13:31

Step back. Try to arrange things to get out of the house when he has the DC.

If he managed to do cooking etc for his DC before you came along, he can do it now.

You sound lovely and keen to be involved, but ultimately you are feeling resentful and it is a lot of involvement for a relationship of less than a year.

WaterBottle123 · 20/01/2022 13:33

You're setting a very bad example for the step children by them seeing a woman doing all the grunt work. Part of parenting is role modelling- make him do 50/50 AT ALL TIMES.

MzHz · 20/01/2022 13:35

What did he do when he had the kids before he met you?

He fed them right? Cleared up after them etc etc?

You’re being taken for a mug here.

I know you don’t want to hear it, but given how it’s all new relationship, there are already ugly shouting matches whenever you want to deal with anything and the resentment you already feel, really, the best thing you can do for yourself- and for the kids actually- is to leave him to it.

You’re seeing who he is, and perhaps all this is why she dumped him…

LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:36

Thanks @Toomuch2do that is the advice I've had from friends too, I don't need to be at home all that time I can be out doing my own stuff! I am feeling resentful, you're right.

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LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:38

@MzHz For sure, he took care of them by himself before I came along! I put myself in that role of cooking, cleaning etc to try and help him out but perhaps I shouldn't. He's never asked me to

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GoGoGretaDoll · 20/01/2022 13:39

How much cooking and cleaning does there need to be on a weekend?

Clean together on a Friday to make the house nice for when the kids come.
He should be cooking for his kids, fgs, that's one of the ways you take care of kids, it's not an optional 'chore'. Then if his kids are messy (if they're little they probably are) then he whizzes round on Sunday and puts everything back to how it was on Friday night.

But none of that really matters if he can't have a conversation with you without it descending into an ugly shouting match. Also beware the crazy ex wife thing. It's usually nonsense made up by men to cover their tracks because their ex has no patience with their BS any more. I take it he pays maintenance?

LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:40

I agree @WaterBottle123 it should be 50/50 at all times

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LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:44

Hi @GoGoGretaDoll and thanks for the ideas.
Yes he pays full maintenance and tbh she really does take the piss, arranges things for the kids that she wants them to do on the weekends when he has them so that he has to then take them there otherwise he's the bad guy.
I am mindful of the 'crazy ex' thing that often needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. He does show me the messages she sends him and I hear the things she tells the children (directly from them) so I can see that she is particularly nasty.

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BurntToastAgain · 20/01/2022 13:44

This is very upsetting and frustrating for him, I can see he gets visibly upset and angry and this often results in an argument between him and her (which undoubtedly is what she wants to achieve!).

A high conflict ex is never helpful to a new blended family. Your partner needs to not argue with her (because they are both being high conflict then). If she’s being difficult about contact, he needs to take her to court so she can’t. It shouldn’t be disrupting your life.

I am in that parental role when we have the children to stay with us and I try my best to make their time enjoyable with activities they like and make an effort to get to know them. I'm mindful of the short time that my partner does have with them, so I do what I can to take on the boring day-to-day stuff like cooking and cleaning/tidying up so he can spend quality time with them. This often means that I feel those weekends for me are just house work!

I know that you are trying to do your best here, but this is going to lead to resentment. The children are there every second weekend (which is what he’s agreed with his ex), but life still goes on when they’re there. They should see their father doing housework and doing to boring bits of parenting. Don’t become his skivvy so that he can spend his contact time with his children because you will become resentful that half of all your weekends (so the time you aren’t working) are spent as a domestic drudge.

He should be contributing equally to the housework all the time, not just when his children aren’t there.

Even more so if he then isn’t making the most of his time with them. If he’s actually getting leisure time and not doing things with him. You’ll find yourself resentful about this. No parent is ever going to be full on attentive the entire time - but, even knowing this, you will resent him pissing about on his phone rather than playing with them if you’ve taken on all the crap to give him the time with them.

It sounds like you’ve taken on loads of the mental load here - you are planning activities and such like. Don’t. He needs to be doing it. For them and him as much as you.

You are going to burn out and he’s going to think he’s entitled to all your labour if you aren’t careful. That’s not a good dynamic to cultivate.

This might sound odd, but what’s driving you towards that dynamic will in part be the ‘his previous, limited time with his children’ narrative. You need to challenge this. He was involved in the process of negotiating a contact arrangement for his children. And he agreed to this. So he needs to accept it and not frame the whole thing in a poor him narrative.

I try my best to support him with the fallout from the awful dynamic between him and his ex, but the negativity of it is affecting my own wellbeing and mental wellness. The level of contact from her seems relentless and far too frequent given that he only has them for four nights each month really. It's like she's a constant background feature in our daily lives and that makes me feel uneasy and sometimes actually anxious.

I know this feels like an ex problem. But it’s actually a partner problem. He is perpetuating a high conflict dynamic with his ex and allowing this to take over your life. He doesn’t have to. He needs to get his house in order and stop making you miserable with it.

I tried to speak to him about this but it's resulted in ugly shouting matches

This a bad sign. He shouts at his ex. He shouts at you if you try to raise the ways this is affecting you.

You are feeling anxious, upset, overwhelmed and resentful because, frankly, he’s giving you the shitty end of the stick. It’s not ok.

You haven’t been together that long. Honestly, I’d suggest that you move out if possible and try to reset the relationship.

Step back and leave him to parent - and do housework - during contact. Draw clear boundaries: His conflict with his ex is not your concern at all.

If you do choose to go to counselling, make sure you choose a counsellor with considerable experience of stepfamily issues. Because most of them do not understand the dynamics at all, and they can often make things much worse.

Maybe have a read of Stepmonster. It’s enlightening.

MaxAni · 20/01/2022 13:48

People on MN absolutely hate 'step parents' and especially the idea that the idea that you could possibly be in a serious relationship less than twenty years post break up with the kids' mum - no matter the circumstances...

I am in a similar situation though the kids are with us 50/50 and their mum is lovely, so my partner and her parent well together. I love having the kids here, but we do still do everything as usual, i.e. both clean and cook. However if he is doing the cooking or cleaning, I am obviously with the kids or vice versa - just like any household with kids. It took a bit to get used to, for all four of us, but we are all happy now and it's working out great. Hope you have the same experience. Just talk to each other, and give yourselves time to adjust. And hopefully their mum will feel more comfortable with things in a while too - it must be hard for her as well, especially if they had a difficult break up.

ThackeryBinks · 20/01/2022 13:51

Hate to say this but if you have "unfair chore undertaking" at this point in the relationship it's going to be even worse down the line. In the beginning my DP drove me nuts with his helping in the kitchen. Now I could do with drawing him a map to remind him where it is! As for toxic ex's they don't tend to get better in my experience.

LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:51

Thanks @BurntToastAgain for such an insightful message I really appreciate it.
I agree with everything you've said, I'm not really in a position to move out right now (we just spent a lot of money moving) and I do tell him he needs to sort out this situation with her, she is a nightmare. Atm it's the cost that's preventing him from taking her to court but tbh he needs to find the money to get this sorted out!

I am naturally nurturing and a caregiver, so I do tend to put myself in that role of cooking etc but I want to make a change there.

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CamsPaisleyCuffs · 20/01/2022 13:54

Life should carry on as usual regardless of whether they are with their mum or dad. Some things have to happen on a weekend - some nice things (birthday parties they've been invited to) and some dull stuff (eye tests/shoe shopping/swimming lessons etc). As a dad he needs to accept that he doesn't just get to have 48 hours of unfettered fun with them - that's not real life. Why should all the "admin" stuff have to fall on mum's weekends? Share the load with her. Also stop picking up the slack - he needs to do his fair share of house hold stuff on the weekends he has them otherwise you are going to become deeply resentful of feeling like Cinderella whilst your DP and children get to go to the metaphorical ball.

Is there a reason you've moved in together so quickly? Whose living arrangements changed that it became a necessity?

BurntToastAgain · 20/01/2022 13:55

@MaxAni while I agree that MN is often awful to stepmothers, I don’t think this OP has had any SM bashing.

What everyone is responding to is a description of a man who:

  • has a high conflict dynamic with his ex (which he is responsible for too)
  • is allowing that dynamic to feel relentless and to negatively affect her well-being
  • not pulling his weight in (it sounds) like any aspect of home life
  • presents himself as the poor victim nonresident father with a crazy ex
  • makes her feel she has to put herself out to compensate him for his limited contact with his children
  • shouts at her if she tries to raise any of this with him.
LoveBug33 · 20/01/2022 13:56

Thanks @MaxAni for such a lovely message :)
Yes there's been a huge amount to adjust to in a very short time and I think both of our lives have completely changed.
People are picking up on the red flag of arguments erupting - which I totally 100% agree with - communication should not be an issue and usually for us it isn't and we communicate very well. The house work seems to be the sticking point. I know if I stepped back from taking care of the children when they're with us he would just step back in, it's often that I get to things before he does I think.

I'm happy for you that your partner has a decent ex it must be a huge relief.

And yes, I've had my fair share of people being suprised that we have moved so quickly!

I would love to hear more from you, you've been a real comfort (halo)

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