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Evil Stepmum’s Greetings Card Collection

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KumquatSalad · 14/01/2021 17:03

Here on stepparenting, we are developing an exciting new range of greetings cards to help express your feelings to the evil stepmother in your life.

Come share your designs with us. There’s a large untapped market out there to be captured. 😁

Evil Stepmum’s Greetings Card Collection
Evil Stepmum’s Greetings Card Collection
Evil Stepmum’s Greetings Card Collection
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UsernameFail · 19/01/2021 10:08

What @sassbott has said is absolutely and 100% true. A lot of the time, SPs get caught up in the dysfunction of a family and the games EXW plays, using their children.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 19/01/2021 10:15

Regardless of whether the SM in those stories are awful people or not for going along with the fathers’ actions, if we were to take those examples entirely at face value then those kind of people aren’t ones whose moral compass would drive them to post for advice on a forum like this one.

Seeing as they’re not representative of the majority views on this board they contribute nothing more than to illustrate Corona’s prejudice against the average step parent reaching out for support.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 19/01/2021 10:19

Time for another card!

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Youseethethingis · 19/01/2021 10:30

@MyCatHatesEverybody
That’s the Mother Card that launched a thousand others, to mercilessly mix my metaphors.
It’s the root of all things 👏🏻

PardonMoiSir · 19/01/2021 11:12

@Coronawireless

And putting cliches on cards implies that some of you have heard those comments directed at you quite a lot, presumably by other people observing your behaviour...some of you might want to ask yourselves if there’s something in it rather than just finding it a joke (a joke I’ll assume your SCs may not laugh at).
There are tonnes of unfair stereotypes banded around about certain groups of people. Do you insist on telling all of them that perhaps they should look at their own behaviour then? It's not an uncommon thing. It happens to women in general all the time!

Your examples are horrible, I agree. But I could equally give you examples of poor parents I've heard of over the years. It somehow manages not to colour my view of all mothers/fathers.

There are examples of bad people in all aspects of life, relationships, professions etc... Because one thinks a certain way doesn't mean that universally all step parents do.

Bollss · 19/01/2021 11:14

I mean... that's just proved the point of the entire thread hasn't it?

It's embarrassing to have an attitude like that.

sassbott · 19/01/2021 11:19

@UsernameFail absolutely they do.

I (as previously stated) will take long haul holidays on my own when my children are with my exh. I couldn’t afford to take us all. Does that mean I shouldn’t go when my children are with their other parent? Absolutely not.

Now could my exh have stirred the children up and been outraged that I chose to spend my money so ‘selfishly’? Or course. But he’s not a dick. So what he and the children understood (and verbalised) is that I work hard and deserve the break. That’s what he told the children and that’s what they subsequently internalised.

That the whole world does not rotate around them. Others have needs to. They won’t get everything. And bluntly? If they one day want to go to nice holidays like that then head down, study hard and pick a career that pays well/ learn to save pennies. Life does not hand stuff like this on a platter to most people. It’s earned.

That’s what healthy parents teach their children, even post separation. In the holiday example that keeps being referenced, if I was the mother to the SD and I knew my exh was going off on a city break with the new partner. I would either simply agree to not tell the child (I mean why should I know), or id say, goodness that sounds boring. Lots of old buildings and lots of walking. I’d rather go swimming/ to the playground. Said child would be absolutely fine!

They take their lead from the parents. And if the parent is going to howl in despair, so will the child/ren.

PardonMoiSir · 19/01/2021 11:28

They take their lead from the parents. And if the parent is going to howl in despair, so will the child/ren

I do agree with this. If parents actually take the time to explain things, civilly without resorting to slagging any other party off, I imagine 9/10 of these situations wouldn't even be such a huge deal.

My parents went on breaks without me growing up quite often, and that was both of them! I stayed with gran. And then when they divorced they went on some with me and some without depending who I was with at any time. I am not emotionally scarred because my parents had a few holidays without me. If my mum or dad had made a huge deal out of it, maybe I would have felt much different. But they didn't, it was just business as usual.

My Dad went all sorts of places, Caribbean, Greece, Africa etc...! Places I'd love to go. I'm perfectly fine though, no childhood was ruined by this. (and before anyone says anything, my Dad was my RP, my mum never paid a penny maintenance, my Dad did practically everything for me, he was in no way a bad parent at all, he was the best out of the two!).

KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 11:40

Actually, I think an example might help to illustrate just how hopelessly wrong @Coronawireless is, however well meaning she thinks she is in standing up for the poor SC.

As it has to be (and so often is in stepfamilies), it’s an incredibly petty one in which the solution that allows the SM to cope with a situation that’s ruining her life is so easy to turn into an evil SM tale. Indeed, her SC will tell it as such - both to their mother/grandparents/anyone else who’ll listen at the time, and later as a poor me with my evil SM story to share with friends. Because that is how these things so often play out.

What the situation looks like when overheard by a work colleague who doesn’t like you anyway in the canteen:

My stepchildren keep destroying the houseplants and spreading soil all over the conservatory. So we don’t even let them in there any more. It’s a stepchildren free zone.

The story told by the stepchildren:

My stepmother was such a cow. Do you know she cares/cared more about the bloody houseplants than us. She bans/banned from the conservatory at dad’s house because she’s obsessed with the stupid things. Her and dad would sit in there reading or listening to music and we aren’t/weren’t allowed to come/go in at all.

As told by the SC’s mother:

My ex’s wife is such a bitch. She hates my children and is always trying to exclude them. Do you know she’s banned them from the conservatory. They’re treated like the poor relations in that house.

As told by the NR father:

(I’ll admit this one is the hardest to try to frame as a reasonable perspective. Possibly because I didn’t grow up with the sense of male entitlement most men do.)

I wish my wife were more supportive of me. I’m working so hard and just want a nice house and family life. But she seems to have it in for my children. She makes such a big deal about sorting out the conservatory because they play with the houseplants. I’ve had to tell the kids they aren’t allowed in there at all because I’m so fed up with being nagged.

Posted on MN this SM would be guaranteed to get a full house on wicked SM bingo. Absolutely guaranteed. Posters like @coronawireless would be leading the charge, spurred on by having overheard a colleague once and knowing adult children of stepfamilies.

But actually the situation may be much more complex than that and the situation may be 1. Actually the NR father’s choice, and 2. The only way the SM can cope in a screwed up dynamic.

What’s really going on might be that the NR father likes houseplants. He wanted a conservatory full of them. The SM may not actually be fussed about the bloody houseplants at all (the sad irony of so many SM situations). Both the adults like to have a tidy house. As is often the case, the bulk of the housework burden miraculously falls to the woman. So she’s responsible for looking after the houseplants and sorting out any mess.

The SC are there EOW. Every time they come, they maul the houseplants. They shred the leaves, tear off the flowers, knock them on the floor, spread the soil everywhere, and so on.

The SM ends up repeatedly cleaning up this mess (which gets everywhere - not just in the conservatory). The plants look a mess all the time. The conservatory looks shit and isn’t a nice place to be. She’s fed up with replacing plants that get destroyed. She’d fed up with her husband complaining about the mess and how his plants are ruined and he can’t enjoy the conservatory that he works so hard to pay for.

She tried telling the SC off. But that goes down like a lead balloon - both with the SC and their father. The SC tell on her to their mother, who sticks her oar in too. This dynamic is destroying any possibility of a nice relationship with them at all.

She’s tried nagging their father to do it, but he doesn’t want to spend his precious time off work and the little time he had with his children telling them off. It’s only EOW so he’s willing to ignore their behaviour, even if it annoys him. Thing is, he doesn’t seem to feel the same way about how he interacts with his wife. No. He’ll nag her about the mess in the conservatory. It’s his weekend and he can’t relax because she hasn’t tidied up after his children (again). And she keeps complaining at him. It’s just a bit of cleaning, and only EOW. Why is she complaining so much?

So she’s had enough. They’re arguing. It’s ruining their marriage. And not just when the SC are there. So she tells him that she’s not putting up with it any more. He’s got to decide how to sort this out as it’s going to end in divorce (over what looks like houseplants!). She even offers several options (there may even have been a process of working through them but the overall dynamic sabotaging each of the ‘lesser’ ones.

So he could discipline his children so that the problem never arises (he doesn’t want to - see above). He could accept that they cannot have houseplants because the SC destroy them (he doesn’t want to because he likes houseplants and wants a nice conservatory to relax in). He can take over all the houseplant related work and clean up after his children (he doesn’t want to do this). Or the children just can’t be allowed in the conservatory at all. He chooses this because it’s the least effort option for him.

He tells his children they aren’t allowed in. And even if he doesn’t say it’s SM’s fault, the overall dynamic tells them to blame her. As does their mother. Nonetheless he still wants to use the conservatory as normal. So he sits in there with his wife and drinks coffee/reads the paper. The kids resent SM because they can’t sit with dad. He ignores everything the SM does for him and his children and focused on how she (not him) is a horrible person who excludes his kids. His mother heartily agrees.

Society tells him that he’s a poor hard done by thing. His wife should be more supportive of him. He works so hard and earns more than her, you know. He’s hardly got any time with his kids and just won’t help him out so it can be special. His colleagues agree. His mother agrees.

The SM feels guilty. Like she’s a dreadful human. But the house is calmer. She’s better able to cope with contact and make it fun. But everyone is blaming her. She posts on MN and receives the standard range of evil SM cards. All over houseplants she doesn’t even particularly like.

The SC don’t generally tell this tale as ‘we were consistently shits about the plants. Dad was ineffective and expected SM to do everything but without any authority. Then he chose to sit where we weren’t allowed and ignore us. Mum and grandma kept telling us what a bitch SM was.’ Do they?

This is a made up example, btw. But it’s the sort of complex situation that isn’t what it might look like to an outsider, or even to the DSC, that comes up all the time in stepparenting. And people just jump straight to prejudice and cliche that blames the wicked SM.

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Youseethethingis · 19/01/2021 11:42

Totally agree about kids taking their lead from their parents. “What the eye doesn’t see the heart won’t grieve over” spring to mind in the holiday example.
The only reason to tell the child she’s “being excluded” would be to deliberately upset her and stir up trouble. And that would absolutely be down to adult petty jealousies rather than defending what’s best for the child.
Variations of the same theme seem to play out again and again on these threads. Easiest to blame the step parent though, hence these cards taking the mick out of the same old lazy nonsense thrown at us.

KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 11:52

Which reminds me. We need one of these in the collection.

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Bollss · 19/01/2021 11:53

yep definitely agree - dss genuinely believed that ds was not his brother - because that's what his mum had told him. Luckily he now has a lovely relationship with dss, but if his mum had painted it as "A Good Thing" it would have been much easier for everyone involved.

I mean, i think his mum is a total dick, but when she's done things dss didn't like, i've always been like well "maybe she is stressed from work, she doesn't mean it, it's not personal" etc - he now thinks shes probably not a massive dick, and is just stressed. i could have easily agreed with him that shes a spiteful cow who hates him, and he would have believed that, but i didnt do that because im not a psychopath.

LaMarschallin · 19/01/2021 12:02

I think it's a shame that a witty and - what must have been for many - a very cathartic thread for most of you has been derailed.

I'm not a SM or SD. I've had a little experience of the step relationship via friends and have seen how very manipulative people - including children - can be.

All I can say is that I really admire those of you that have taken it on and I think that people on these threads say appalling things about SMs.

And I've only started reading because my curiosity was piqued by the post saying it was unfair that the original Wicked SMs cards thread had been shut down.
So pretty recently but yet have seen loads of, imo, awful posts.

I'd be a rubbish SM.

Of course I couldn't love the SCs like my own. I'd be nice because I'm not cruel, but I'd save my own children first in an emergency.

No, I wouldn't think they should benefit from an inheritance from my family.
Presumably DP and the SCs mother should have thought of financial arrangements for their children without assuming someone richer might turn up.
So, if I could only afford to take my DCs to Disneyland, well... I'll bring the SCs back a souvenir.

And I would expect the same standards of behaviour for SCs as I would for my own if DP went along with those standards for the children we had together.

KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 12:12

I think this kind of derailing was absolutely inevitable @LaMarschallin. It’s actually amazing there’s been so little of it all considered.

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LaMarschallin · 19/01/2021 12:14

It’s actually amazing there’s been so little of it all considered

I'm really sorry to hear that.

I'd no idea how anti-SMs MN is.

UsernameFail · 19/01/2021 12:22

I think @KumquatSalad was secretly living in my house as that's exactly what was going on here...

Now, please can we get back to a funny, witty and supportive thread for us evil people Grin

DeRigueurMortis · 19/01/2021 12:52

I think we are missing the following card:

"It's their home!" (But they must be treated like a VIP guest).

This in response to many threads where the NRP (for an easy life or to ingratiate themselves to their children) allows the step children to rule the roost.

The irony here being if it the NRP was treating it like their "home" they SC would be treated like the resident children - doing chores, taking turns on the PlayStation, not dominating the TV, eating the food provided rather than expecting their favourite foods etc. Instead the expectation is that they are treated like visiting dignitaries.

KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 13:06

@UsernameFail

I think *@KumquatSalad* was secretly living in my house as that's exactly what was going on here...

Now, please can we get back to a funny, witty and supportive thread for us evil people Grin

Really? You poor thing.

Bloody houseplants!

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KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 13:09

@DeRigueurMortis

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DeRigueurMortis · 19/01/2021 13:13

Thank you Smile

Bollss · 19/01/2021 13:13

So many of these comments on the thread about school fees. Calling the ops dd "precious".
It's a big fat "they all deserve the same unless the step child is getting the better deal then it's fine"

And there's a been a "at least her parents are together"

timelord92 · 19/01/2021 13:15

I too believe that the children take their lead from their parents. My DP's ex wife believes that the whole world should revolve around her children, and my DP is not allowed to have a life of his own. He's been accused of not loving them if he went playing sports or had arranged to meet up with friends on his non contact time. When they were younger and she wanted him to have them extra and he had already made arrangements then she would tell the children 'your dad has chosen such and such over you, he doesn't love you'. Then when I came on the scene it was 'your dad has chosen timelord over you'. It's a way for her to manipulate my DP into doing what she wants and instead of it always being his ex that talks in that way we now have his children speaking to him like that because they've seen it work as my DP is too scared to go against it for fear that they won't want to see him anymore.

Before lock down we went away with the majority of my DP's family and his DSD came with us but we only went for 5 days rather than 7 like everyone else. We later found out DSD had been complaining to the rest of the family that her dad had only taken her away for 5 days instead of 7 days like everyone else. Some of the other children of a similar age (late teens) apparently answered back and said at least her dad was away with her as their dad's had never been away with them at all.

This mentality has come about as a result of how their mother talks to them. As a result of this she is an unhappy teenager and has a lot of mental health issues (which she is receiving counselling for) but again it's all mine and my DP's fault.

KumquatSalad · 19/01/2021 13:28

Because resident children clearly have it all.

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MyCatHatesEverybody · 19/01/2021 13:36

@KumquatSalad that is a beautifully written step parenting example of "she divorced me because I left my dishes by the sink."

Sadly it's unlikely to convince the likes Corona and similar posters who hover the boards waiting to pounce, because they'll simply shrug their shoulders and go "Meh, it's just a few plants. If I were a SM I wouldn't put houseplants or a bit of cleaning over making those poor dear children feel welcome."

The thing they ignore is that any child in any family set up will not enjoy being told off. But temporary feelings of discomfort in children isn't something to be avoided at all costs - in fact, it's an unavoidable consequence of authoritative parenting (not to be confused with authoritarian) which many studies show has much better outcomes for children than permissive parenting. Should DC be shielded from experiencing discipline and consequences and uncomfortable emotions just by virtue of being the children of separated parents? Does it help them grow into well balanced adults? The Disney Dads and the SM haters would have you think so.

Such posters are also determined not to take into account that the dynamic which gives rise to examples such as the houseplants scenario will be all-pervasive regarding anything to do with the DSC. The issue isn't a bloody houseplant. It's:

The houseplants are wrecked yet again

  • cleans up

Right let's cook the dinner

  • DSC refuse to eat a dinner they've enjoyed many times before so parent lets DSC skip straight to dessert and snack on junk later

Walks past conservatory to find houseplants are wrecked yet again

  • Cleans up again because DH is busy with DC and you'll look spiteful for interrupting them

Fancies watching a film

  • Is pressurised into sitting through Alvin and the Chipmunks Movie "as a family" otherwise will be accused of not liking the children

OK I'm off for a relaxing bath

  • Picks DSC wet towels off bathroom floor and cleans pee off the toilet for the umpteenth time because DH refuses to tell his children off for leaving the bathroom in a mess. Reaches for nice bubble bath that was a gift to find it missing. It later surfaces in DSC's room

Goes to bedroom to dry off after bath

  • Reaches for body lotion to find that missing too

It's 11.00 pm and I'm shattered, I'm going to bed

  • Unable to sleep because 7yo DSC is still watching TV downstairs really loudly then tantrums when finally told to go to bed at midnight

Next day - looking forward to night out with DH after the DSC have gone back to their mum's

  • "Btw SM but I've agreed we'll keep the DCs another night because their mum wants to go out". Are you ok doing the school run tomorrow?"

This stuff might seem petty and all part of raising children but it grinds you down having no say in how those children are allowed to act in your own home. Or if you do have your say you're made out to be evil/unwelcoming/resentful. Add to that all the expected sacrifices that come with being a step parent plus the element of there being no parent-child cuddles or "I love you mummy." It makes the entire situation really hard to tolerate, especially when the actual parent refuses to acknowledge that in order to cope you might actually have some needs of your own outside the remit of his children.

It's fucking exhausting. I'm glad the tide finally seems to be turning on here at least, even if not in the real world.

blackcat86 · 19/01/2021 13:37

Some of my personal favourites would be MN insisted that both my toddler DD and teen DSS must be treated exactly the same. Doesn't matter if DD has had some additional needs, doesn't matter that there is a 14 year age difference. DSS must be given advantages! The fact that his mum was supported to stay home for the entirely of his childhood and now only works a few hours whilst DD was in nursery at 10 months obviously cannot ever be mentioned. Only things that place DSS as the family cinerderlla are facts. Any other facts of course don't exist.

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