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Leaving my son out of his will...

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perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:28

Hello there, I'm new here, but need some advice and couldn't think who else to ask?
I'm sure a question like this will have been asked before, but I could really use an opinion on whether I'm asking too much.

My partner and I have been together six years and we both have one child each. When we met I owned a house and sold it because it wasn't big enough to accommodate us all after we got together and then used the small sale income to fund a new rented house on the proviso that we would eventually get married and buy together. He had very little when we met, lived with his Mum, didn't own a stick of furniture and had only a tiny wage.

Since then I have made a life for us despite his mental health issues, encouraged him to pursue a different career pathway that is now going terribly well and have put up with all manner of issues that have badly damaged my self-esteem.

A year after we met he asked me to marry him and I said yes. He then stopped talking about it and eventually said we needed to be more settled house-wise before we married. Another year passed and then he asked again. Same scenario, then he silently backed out again shortly before having a complete nervous breakdown.

I stayed at his side and nursed him through his illness, covered all the bills when he wasn't getting paid and earn more than he does so pay more regardless. He got better and life seemed to be getting so much better too. Then out of the blue he told me that though he wants to be with me for the rest of his life, he no longer has any intention of marrying me as he has decided that despite me wanting it so much, it is not for him.

I was devastated. But assured by him, that this did not mean he didn't want our life together, pulled up my big girl pants and got on with it.

Until today when he mentioned a will he has written (though I knew nothing about it) - he has substantial pensions and will at some point inherit from his mother - apparently making no provision for my child at all in the event of his death and leaving the majority to his son with some provision for me .

I was a little gob-smacked. When I asked him why he hadn't included my son in his will he said it wasn't up to him. That he saw no reason why he should and that he doesn't understand why I would imagine that a more traditional set-up whereby any money came to the partner left after the others death, with a trust to ensure it would be divided between the two children in the event of both our deaths, should even be a consideration.

I feel terribly sad about all this. He will not let me see the will so I do not know whether he has actually made any provision for me at all, but in the end it isn't about the money (he is long off death, I hope!) but his refusal to recognise us as a family unit, and to treat both children equally - or at least to recognise my son to some degree as I plan to his.

I feel like I have given up my own security and been kind of bamboozled out of a secure future with him as he has taken marriage out of the equation and is very cagey about getting a mortgage now. But I just can't decide whether I am being unreasonable expecting him to include my child in what he says is his will and none of my business?

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ChipotleBlessing · 17/02/2020 18:31

Jesus, he’s a massive burden and has no commitment to you. Why bother with him?

chinam · 17/02/2020 18:37

Seriously, just cut your losses with this guy. I can't believe you gave up the security of your own home with absolutely no guarantee of anything from him.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 17/02/2020 18:38

He's a cocklodger lass.

I mean, I don't necessarily believe that a step parent should automatically provide for a step child, it depends on things like ages and numbers of their own children, what was brought to the relationship, what the other parent provides, etc but that's not actually the point here.

This man has been living off you for years, this is just another example.

perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:38

@chipotleblessing I think he's got me in such a muddle that I just cant tell whether I'm coming or going to be honest? And he makes me feel so guilty for wanting what I consider to be normal parts of a relationship that I back down.
I know it isn't right but he has me absolutely convinced that his independence is important and that by expecting him to share a future, I am somehow compromising him. when all I want is the kind of security I have long imagined is part and parcel of a committed relationship.
Ugh. just writing that down I can see how weak it sounds. And I'm not weak at all. I run a successful business and have always been capable and strong.

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Tyersal · 17/02/2020 18:39

It doesn't sound like you like this guy very much and may even resent him?

That aside why would he leave anything to your son? He will presumably inherit from you? Have you left anything to him /his son? Does he know?

Kirkman · 17/02/2020 18:40

Regards the will, he should leave to your son what you are leaving to his.

Since you have the money from your house, I would buy somewhere in tour name only or save that money for your retirement/inheritance for your son.

I out earn dp, have more chance of inheritance than him and own a house. I wont be making provision for his son in my will. However, we both discussed it when we got together and both happy with what we are doing and how it's set up.

But......I mean this in the nicest way....what are you doing? He doesnt make you happy, so a huge drain.

You would be better off single.

Whynosnowyet · 17/02/2020 18:41

He sees you as a carer and nothing more.
Ltb...
He is a twat imo.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 17/02/2020 18:42

Leave him, seriously, leave him.

He has no regards for you and never will.

Leave him now...

perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:42

@LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett

"He's a cocklodger Lass" - Thank you -This made me laugh, especially seen as we haven't had sex for two years!

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Alsoco · 17/02/2020 18:43

Yeah he’s a knob

But not on the will front. Why would his Mum want her inheritance to go to your son?

DonnaDarko · 17/02/2020 18:44

It sounds like he's taken you for a mug. sorry.

You've given a lot and it doesn't sound like he's given anything back. I kind of figured before I even got to that point, that he was going to say he wont marry you. Why would he when you've literally given him everything :/

I agree with others, though, I wouldn't make any provision for a step child unless I had adopted them officially.

ChickLitLover · 17/02/2020 18:45

Seriously, just cut your losses with this guy. I can't believe you gave up the security of your own home with absolutely no guarantee of anything from him.

I completely agree with this. But it’s done now. I’d be making a life without him and making myself and my child financially secure from now on.

titchy · 17/02/2020 18:46

I just cant tell whether I'm coming or going to be honest?

You should be going. Fast and far.

perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:47

@Tyersal I love him. Without love I could not have stuck it out for as long as I have. I also like him beyond his very obvious commitment issues. We get on incredibly well, share interests and spend much of our time laughing.
I think perhaps the issue at the heart of this is not that I expect him to leave anything for my son, though I will be sharing whatever I have between the two children, but that his refusal to see us as a family unit in any meaningful way is distressing me.

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Singlenotsingle · 17/02/2020 18:48

He's made it clear that he doesn't consider you or your DS his responsibility, so now you know where you stand. I would say start building a future for for you and your DS. Save for a deposit, buy a property in your sole name, not joint and definitely DON'T get married otherwise you risk losing it to this man. Make your own Will and protect your own D's, now while there's still time.

IHadADreamWhichWasNotAllADream · 17/02/2020 18:48

It sounds like a very flawed relationship, but I’m not sure it’s normal to leave anything to your girlfriend’s child, especially if you don’t have a jointly owned house. His (eventually) definitive statement that he doesn’t want to marry you seems consistent with a belief that you are not ever going to be a family or a shared financial team.

What does your will say? And does your child have a father (in any meaningful way)

Kirkman · 17/02/2020 18:48

Why would you leave something to his son, if he isnt leaving anything to yours?

Why exactly do you love him?

Friendsofmine · 17/02/2020 18:49

I think you haven't been a partner long enough to become a carer to someone who doesn't adore you. He hasn't put enough in the love bank to make so many withdrawals. The will isn't the issue, as toy say, it's the meaning behind it that makes me think this has run its course in so much as you aren't in a healthy relationship.

HollowTalk · 17/02/2020 18:51

You've posted about this man before, haven't you?

It's so depressing. You are going to leave your son's inheritance to his son, who will be immeasurably better off than your son.

You sold your house in order to fund living with this selfish twat.

Honestly, OP. Get a bloody grip. This man is not a good man. He's not the right man for you. Put your own child first, for god's sake.

ZenNudist · 17/02/2020 18:52

So lets get this straight you have put your money into the family home. Are not married. Could you not sell up and have your respective shares back, split any equity and start afresh to find a man who does want to be with you?

Does no sex = he is getting it elsewhere??

spongedog · 17/02/2020 18:53

You sound lovely. Positive, hard-working, thoughtful, but perhaps then a bit of a mug. He sounds, well, uncommitted (to you) and effectively out for what he can get out of the relationship (not necessarily just financial). I would be taking quite firm steps to move on. He clearly no longer wants what you want for the future. There are children involved (no idea of their ages) so you both need to be careful.

Trahira · 17/02/2020 18:53

I think the will thing is ok - I wouldn't expect him to leave money away from his own child in favour of yours, and I advise you to re-consider your own will.

The other aspects of the relationship (playing fast and loose with your financial security, taking more from you emotionally speaking than he gives in return, promising marriage and letting you down twice, no sex for two years) are far more serious issues IMO.

FourDecades · 17/02/2020 18:54

Why on earth would you do your own son out of inheritance to split with his when the reverse isn't happening?

You really need to start putting your child's needs and yours before his.

So you used your profit from your house, what did he contribute?

Really think he is taking you for a ride.

perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:54

To explain myself further, in case I sound like I'm trying to grab his or his mums money... I come from a family who never had much but who shared every last penny without judgement, It simply never entered my head that anyone creating or joining a family wouldn't live by the same rules: that we share, without saying this is mine and that is yours?
That is probably terribly naive and I do think I have been a fool giving up the house I loved, (sold for a song because he pushed me to sell it quick so we could afford somewhere big enough for all of us), but life isnt always black and white is it? And I do think that when your self-esteem is so very low, it takes a while for the mist to clear, so you can really understand what is going on.

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perikerfuffle · 17/02/2020 18:56

@ZenNudist No, erectile dysfunction due to testosterone issues. Its been sad.

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